The Defranceschi Archive
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Magdalena

Magdalena. Rijeka. Every mention of this name in the archive — 30 across 17 pages.

PlaceRijeka
ParishRijeka
LineA documented Istrian or Kvarner household this archive will not attach to any line
Found inHousehold
What the archive knows

Named in household h105 on the households list, at Rijeka, as the wife of Joannes Baptista de Franceschi, a De Franceschi, and the mother of Josephus Aloysius de Franceschi. Evidence class: read — from registers this archive has read. No birth, death or occupation is printed for this person, so none is claimed. Not of the name's surname — kept because the person married into it; the household list gives the couple and nothing about their origin. Recorded by forename only — no surname is printed, so this is a name and a role and cannot be told apart from another woman of the same forename by anything on the page.

ParentsLižnjan
Mathæus Defranceschib. 1857a FamilySearch index entry Maria Primusa FamilySearch index entry
Magdalena marriedJoannes Baptista de Franceschi
4 brothers and sisters
Fuscab. 9 Jan 1870Tuscad. 6 Jul 1870Joannesb. 7 Jul 1871 Annab. 10 May 1873
the archive's own line a register read here a FamilySearch index entry the family tree, unverified

This name sits in more than one household. 3 sets of parents survive the date check. The first is drawn. Joining them on a name alone is the mistake this site keeps having to correct.

Where this comes from

2 of the 8 relationships drawn above are written in a register this archive has read with its own eyes. 6 come from a FamilySearch index entry — a transcription, not the page.

Joined on a name alone. 4 households above could not be date-checked, because this archive holds no year for the person or for the household. Treat that link as a lead.

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Identity here is by name, not by resolved individual. Where two people of one name appear in this archive they share this page, and it is for the reader to keep them apart — the surrounding text usually makes it obvious. Nothing here is new evidence; it is the same evidence, brought together.

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The Archive

…Franceschinis 6JJ2-J1S2 Franceschinis Female 12 Feb 1913 Kärnten, Österreich 6JJY-VZQ2 Magdalena Franceschini Female 1875 22 May 1894 Kärnten, Österreich 6N31-NWDP Martin Josef Franzeschini Male…

Back to Carnia

…marriage act eleven days later writes her «Anna nata Brencis» Godparents: «Domino Joanne quondam Floreani Micoli = Toscano» — a Micoli Toscano, the family whose palace at Mione holds the 1679 weavers' contracts — and «Domina Magdalena filia quondam Joannis Prencis», «ambobus de Mione» Gio: Batta Dario, parish priest· the copy certified by the Pieve at Luincis Archivio di Stato di Udine· Stato civile napoleonico· Ovaro· Matrimoni, allegati· 1815· Antenati…

…no relationship and is not offered as one. It is a measure of the distance between the two families in a village of a few hundred people: close enough to stand godfather. Prencis, with a P, in a priest's Latin The godmother is «Magdalena filia quondam Joannis Prencis … de Mione». This archive has spent three attempts on whether Brenci, Prencis, Crencis, Brenis, Brunis and Brencis are one surname. Here is the form written by a parish priest, in Latin, in 1792, about a Mione family —…

Changes

…settle everything is not in them Fiume marriages, film 005497925 images 168–191, both pages Twenty-four frames, November 1736 to February 1748, and exactly one Defranceschi marriage in all of it — Valentino's. Joannes Baptista and Magdalena are nowhere. Their son was born 24 May 1748, so a Fiume wedding would have fallen inside the swept window. They married elsewhere, as their son Giuseppe would in his turn. The nil is the finding, because it names the next book. Kobler's…

…venuto dalla Contea di Pisino… intorno al 1740» for his own family — the Gologorica house, this archive's own line — and said that man studied at Fiume and married a lady of the D'Agnese family. The whole question now reduces to Magdalena's maiden name, and it is in the County of Pazin's registers, which run from 1582 and have never been opened here. 20 Sept 2026 found Valentino's own wedding, 28 February 1737 — and the register writes «ex Carnia» in…

…things agree: forename, surname, town, an age of twenty-four at his first child's baptism, and the fact that this archive had already found «Joannes Baptista Defranceschi, widower» remarrying on 9 December 1771 — the status of a man whose wife Magdalena had died. The MyHeritage tree's unsourced b. 1748, d. 1778 now has a document behind the birth year. So work-list 142 is answered, and answered no. Giuseppe is not a sixteenth child of Valentino the Carnian. Still inf — no entry says…

The Defranceschi Archive

…are made in the place where the mistake was made, not quietly on a back page — this list is the index to them. Twenty things this archive got wrong. 13 Oct 2026 major Maria Defranceschi's mother was Magdalena BUIĆ, not «Magdalena Davić» — and the row was named for the misreading /liznjan/· /who/· the roster row «Magdalena Davić»· /searched/ That Maria Defranceschi of Pomer, who married Petrus Kirac at Medulin on 30 July 1874,…

…where the mistake was made, not quietly on a back page — this list is the index to them. Twenty things this archive got wrong. 13 Oct 2026 major Maria Defranceschi's mother was Magdalena BUIĆ, not «Magdalena Davić» — and the row was named for the misreading /liznjan/· /who/· the roster row «Magdalena Davić»· /searched/ That Maria Defranceschi of Pomer, who married Petrus Kirac at Medulin on 30 July 1874, was the daughter of the…

…things this archive got wrong. 13 Oct 2026 major Maria Defranceschi's mother was Magdalena BUIĆ, not «Magdalena Davić» — and the row was named for the misreading /liznjan/· /who/· the roster row «Magdalena Davić»· /searched/ That Maria Defranceschi of Pomer, who married Petrus Kirac at Medulin on 30 July 1874, was the daughter of the late Tomas Defranceschi and Magdalena Davić — read from the Genitores Sponsae column of that…

…the misreading /liznjan/· /who/· the roster row «Magdalena Davić»· /searched/ That Maria Defranceschi of Pomer, who married Petrus Kirac at Medulin on 30 July 1874, was the daughter of the late Tomas Defranceschi and Magdalena Davić — read from the Genitores Sponsae column of that marriage on 13 September 2026 and carried for a month as a named person with her own page. The mother is Magdalena Buich — Buić. Four entries in the Pomer registers write it…

…July 1874, was the daughter of the late Tomas Defranceschi and Magdalena Davić — read from the Genitores Sponsae column of that marriage on 13 September 2026 and carried for a month as a named person with her own page. The mother is Magdalena Buich — Buić. Four entries in the Pomer registers write it unprompted: «Buich» in the marriage of 16 August 1843, in Lucia's baptism of 1844, in Michele's of 1847 and in Maria's own of 1852; «Buić» in Lucia's marriage of 1866. The 1847 scribe…

…where the index was right and the tree a year out — and it is a useful corrective to assuming an index outranks a tree. ⭐ And the anagrafe reference ties the household together ACROSS A MOVE. This entry cites Anagr. p. 305, III. 9; Magdalena Justina's baptism cites p. 305, III. 7 — same page, same family, different person number — though she was entered at house 61 in 1879 and he at house 82 in 1888. The house number moves; the anagrafe family does…

…the better for this parish than the house number (/liznjan/). The household of Gregorius Defranceschi and Maria Vojnić now stands at four children buried small: the twins Maria and Anastasia (20–22 February 1875), a Maria of 1878 still unread, Magdalena Justina (1879–1952, who lived), and this Josephus. Both birth years are now 1886 and re-declared in data/decisions.json. Nothing was deleted; ids are minted once and frozen and the join is written on both rows. 12 Oct…

…not two.· h046 / h048 — Josip Defranceschi × Ana Kalanj, Ledenice 1890–92 and Crikvenica 1894–96. One family that moved eight kilometres, and generation 4 of the direct line.· h083 / h090 — Nascovich / Nasković, Maddalena / Magdalena: four children over sixteen years, split in two by the language the clerk was writing in.· h087 / h088 — Rodolfo Carlo Bernardo Matteo Vito Lazzer, 1859 and Rudolphus Carolus Bernardus Matthæus Vitus, 1859 are the same boy. They are…

…marriage entry of 28 February 1737 calls him «D.num Valentinum de Franceschi ex Carnia» in the clerk's own hand — two years before the citizenship, and no longer only Kobler's word. A second household then surfaced on the same film: Joannes Baptista × Magdalena, whose son Josephus Aloysius, born 24 May 1748, is almost certainly the Giuseppe who heads the Rijeka chain. That is the household the dotted line points at, because Kobler's correspondent claimed a «Giovanni Batt. De Franceschi venuto dalla Contea di…

Say Your Name

…seen Márta seen Martha seen forms madalena Magdalena seen Magdalenae seen Madalena seen Maddalena seen…

…seen Martha seen forms madalena Magdalena seen Magdalenae seen Madalena seen Maddalena seen Mande seen Manda…

…seen Maddalena seen Mande seen Manda seen Magdalena seen Magdolna seen Magdalene seen forms stella Stella…

The Map

…burial register register Vitnio Defranceschi y parish burial register register Domenica Defranceschi y parish burial register register Magdalena Defranceschi y parish burial register register Dominicus Defranceschi y parish burial register register Maria Defranceschi y parish burial…

Fiume 1626

…second Fiume household: Joannes Baptista and Magdalena For twenty years this archive read Fiume as one Defranceschi house — Valentino the Carnian's. On 20 September 2026 a frame-by-frame sweep of the baptism film turned up another, baptising in the same church in the same decade: D.nus…

…read Fiume as one Defranceschi house — Valentino the Carnian's. On 20 September 2026 a frame-by-frame sweep of the baptism film turned up another, baptising in the same church in the same decade: D.nus Joannes Baptista de Franceschi and D.na Magdalena. They matter more than a second household usually would, because their son is almost certainly the Giuseppe who heads the Rijeka chain — the line that runs on through a Valentino born 1772, twenty-one children on Ursula between 1794 and 1805, and a…

…Magdalenæ jugalium de Franceschi, natum 24 hujus, baptizavit D.nus Canonicus Eustachius Sauf. Patrini fuere D.nus Josephus Voxila et D.na Eleonora Moroldi. On 29 May 1748. Josephus Aloysius, lawful son of D.nus Joannes Baptista and D.na Magdalena, husband and wife, de Franceschi, born on the 24th of this month, was baptised by D.nus Canon Eustachius Sauf. The godparents were D.nus Josephus Voxila and D.na Eleonora Moroldi. Film 005497925, image 150 (3:1:3QS7-L99F-W4CK). The sweep was…

…1771 — a widower remarries, and the first wife is gone Joannes Baptista Defranceschi, widower, and Catharina de Benzoni, joined in matrimony. Volume 2 of the same film, image 293. A widower — so Magdalena had died by the end of 1771, twenty-three years after her son's baptism. He has indexed children by Catharina in 1773 and 1776, which is why the index shows this surname at Fiume in the 1770s under two different mothers. It also dates the…

…168–191 of film 005497925, both pages, November 1736 to February 1748. Twenty-four frames. In twelve years of Fiume weddings there is exactly one Defranceschi marriage, and it is Valentino's. Joannes Baptista and Magdalena are not in it. Their son was born 24 May 1748, so a Fiume wedding would have fallen inside that window. They married somewhere else — as their son Giuseppe would in his turn, and as an incomer does. That absence is the most useful thing on this…

…proveniente dalla mia famiglia» — the Gologorica house, which is this archive's own line — and his pedigree adds that the man studied at Fiume and married a lady of the D'Agnese family. So the whole question reduces to one fact: Magdalena's maiden name. D'Agnese confirms Kobler and hangs the Rijeka chain off this archive's own line. Anything else kills it. And it will be found in the County of Pazin's registers, which run from 1582 and have never been opened here — not at Fiume.…

Register

…Josephuš Forlani 6B47-8WLV Maurus y Dominica Defranceschi Dominicuš Codacovich 6B47-4FMY Laurentia y Dominica Defranceschi Flos Biasiol 6B47-DXFB Magdalena y Lucia Defranceschi Paulus Damiani 6B47-Q3XS Antonius y Pascha Defranceschi Angelus Ferrarese 6B47-Q3QQ Dominicus y Dominica Defranceschi Flos…

…Giovanni Rodosoch lead 6B47-8L5L Lucia De Franceschi Franceschi F y b. 25 Jul 1826 Gio Maria De Franceschi Lucia Benassin in 6B47-9JQX Magdalena Defranceschi Defranceschi F y b. 1826· d. 22 Sep 1831· of Kraljevina Hrvatska Kraljevina Hrvatska, in 6B47-898X Maria Vellico Surname not indexed…

Ližnjan

…this archive has not opened. ⭐⭐ And the facing page gives her mother. The right-hand page of the same opening carries the parents of both parties, and the row reads: «Simon Kirac· Catharina Lazarić vid.· def. Tomas De-franceschi· Magdalena Buić». Tomas Defranceschi × Magdalena Buić, of Pomer — and their daughter Maria, born 1 June 1852 and baptised at Pomer on the 6th. That is a whole household of the name, recovered from a single opening of a register nobody had read.…

The live tree, read against this archive

…living Giovachino de Franceschi living Guiseppe DeFranceschi living Maria De Franceschi Calzavara living María Rosa Magdalena Defranceschi living Erika Carolina de Franceschi living Ramon de Franceschi living Edith de Franceschi living…

Worklist

…of Gregorius Defranceschi and Maria Vojnić — twins, born 20 February 1875, dead 22 February, buried 23 February, braced together on the page. Told on /liznjan/. Three of seventeen done. ✔ And a fourth: «Justina» is «Magdalena Justina», born 3 October 1879, house 61 — the twins’ sister. Her baptism carries a margin: «Umrla u Ližnjanu dana 18. V. 1952 (mat. knj. umrlih str. 36 d. 2/52)». And every entry on the page carries an «Anagr. p. …» reference —…

A dossier is every mention of a name anywhere in this archive's data, gathered automatically and linked back to the page it appears on, with what the archive knows about the person set out at the top. Identity here is by NAME, not by resolved individual: where two people share a name they share a dossier, and the archive says so rather than guessing. Rebuilt from the roster, so every person the archive can name has a page — including the ones read straight off a register that no index anywhere contains.

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