The Defranceschi Archive
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Errands

Everything this archive now needs is in a building. Each of these is written up so it can be sent as it stands.

This archive has read what can be read online. What is left is held in reading rooms, registry offices and one Australian state registry, and it needs a person to ask. Each errand below gives the exact reference, what to ask for, what it would settle, and a draft in the language the office works in. Nothing here is speculative: every reference has been checked to exist.

Verify each institution's current address and request form on its own website before sending. This page carries references, not addresses — an address copied from memory is exactly the kind of thing that goes wrong.

Errand 20 · Državni arhiv u Dubrovniku

Who Pietro Defranceschi of Ragusa was, and the Persich–Defranceschi marriage of about 1850

ANSWERED 28 September 2026 — and the answer is that the archive no longer holds the books. Kornelija Bašica, viši arhivist, replying for the Državni arhiv u Dubrovniku:

> «Državni arhiv u Dubrovniku predao je sve matične knjige Biskupskom ordinarijatu u Dubrovniku, tako da traženo gradivo nije kod nas.»

The State Archive has handed over ALL the parish registers to the Diocesan Ordinariate at Dubrovnik, and refers the enquiry to arhiv@db.hr, telephone 020 324 913.

None of the three questions is answered. The marriage of Matteo Persich and Marietta Defranceschi, the identity of her father Pietro, and whether the surname appears in the Republic's own records before 1808 are all exactly where they were — but the door has moved, and this is the kind of fact that costs somebody else a fortnight if it is not written down. (doc — the reply is in Gmail thread 1a09cf406b8c46ff.)

Note what the reply does NOT say. It speaks only of the matične knjige. The Republic's own archive to 1808 — the third question, and the one only this institution can answer — is not mentioned, and it is not a parish register. That half of the errand is still theirs and is worth asking again, separately and narrowly.

Where it goes next Two letters where there was one, and neither is sent: the registers to arhiv@db.hr (Biskupski ordinarijat Dubrovnik), and the pre-1808 Republic question back to the state archive, narrowed to the fonds it kept.

01 Send first Sent true

Pićan parish registers — baptisms and deaths, 1880s–1910s

Državni arhiv u Pazinu (DAPA)
Reference
MKR / MKU Pićan (Pedena) — diocese of Trieste–Capodistria for the years wanted; Poreč–Pula only from 17 October 1977
What it settles
To settle Antonio's return and to find Marta. The Eleven page has Antonio going back to Istria and a Marta whose parentage this archive cannot close. Pićan is the parish; the registers are not on any film this archive can reach.

Update 14 September 2026. Received and forwarded by DAPA, and Jasna Vlahović asks for the same completed request form as for Svetvinčenat — applicant's details, delivery address, and billing details including an OIB. Not submitted: personal data.

What to ask for
A certified copy or a scan of the entries for the surname De Franceschi / Defranceschi in the baptismal and death registers of Pićan, with the years given, plus the register's shelf reference.

Sent 14 September 2026 from David's own account (thread 1a09e084997ce730). Awaiting a reply.

Draft

Poštovani, molim Vas kopiju upisa za prezime De Franceschi / Defranceschi u matičnim knjigama rođenih i umrlih župe Pićan za razdoblje ____–____. Molim i signaturu knjige. Unaprijed hvala.

02 Send first

Death certificate — Zdravko Defranceski

Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages Victoria
Reference
Victoria, Australia · Zdravko Defranceski, b. 1921
What it settles
He is the brother whose resettlement file carries the Partisan seizure that the family remembers as his father's. The certificate would give his death date, his last address, his parents as stated at death, and the informant — which is often the sibling who is otherwise invisible.
What to ask for
A historical death certificate. Victoria's index is searchable online and orders are placed through the registry's own site.
Draft

(An online order form — no letter needed. Search the historical index first for the exact registration number.)

03 Send first Sent true

Marriage dispensations for Vodnjan, 1815–1884

Biskupijski arhiv Poreč-Pula / Ordinariate of Pola
Reference
Cited in the register itself: «Dispensa … dell'Ordinariato di Pola», with numbers — e.g. 18 Feb 1830 № 97
What it settles
The Vodnjan marriage register cites its own paperwork by number. Each dispensation file names the degree of kinship and the couple's common ancestor — which is the single fastest way to join the two Vodnjan lines to each other, if they join at all.
What to ask for
Whether the dispensation files of the Ordinariate of Pola for 1815–1884 survive, and if so how they are arranged and whether they can be consulted or copied by number.

Sent 14 September 2026 from David's own account (thread 1a09e086d2d5d827). Awaiting a reply.

Draft

Egregi, sto ricercando la famiglia De Franceschi di Dignano (Vodnjan). Il registro dei matrimoni della parrocchia cita dispense dell'Ordinariato di Pola con numero di protocollo (per esempio n. 97 del 18 febbraio 1830). Vi sarei grato di sapere se questi fascicoli si conservano e come si possono consultare.

04 Send first Sent true

HR-DARI-254, and HR-DARI-382 kut. 1

Državni arhiv u Rijeci
Reference
HR-DARI-254 · HR-DARI-382, box 1
What it settles
The Kvarner households — Rijeka, Bakar, Ledenice — are documented and unattached to any line. These are the fonds most likely to attach them.
What to ask for
Access conditions and a finding aid for both fonds, and whether reproduction can be ordered remotely.

Sent 14 September 2026 from David's own account (thread 1a09e089168a2187). Awaiting a reply.

Draft

Poštovani, zanimaju me fondovi HR-DARI-254 i HR-DARI-382, kut. 1, u vezi s prezimenom De Franceschi / Defranceschi u Rijeci i Bakru. Molim obavijest o uvjetima korištenja i mogućnosti naručivanja preslika.

05 Worth sending

Austro-Hungarian Veritas register — the ship «Aquilone»

Biblioteca / Archivio di Stato, Trieste
Reference
Registro Veritas austro-ungarico; also the Lloyd Austriaco lists
What it settles
To fix the port of registry of the Aquilone, which the At Sea page can name but not place. A ship's registry decides which country's crew lists you then go looking for.
What to ask for
The entry for the Aquilone in the Austro-Hungarian Veritas register: tonnage, build, owner and port of registry, with the year of the volume consulted.
Draft

Gentili Signori, cerco la nave «Aquilone» nel Registro Veritas austro-ungarico. Mi occorrono stazza, anno e luogo di costruzione, armatore e porto di immatricolazione, con l'indicazione dell'annata consultata.

06 Worth sending

«Famiglia Franceschi», Il Rammentatore zaratino, 1859, p. 30

Biblioteca civica / Archivio, Zadar
Reference
Il Rammentatore zaratino, 1859, p. 30
What it settles
This is the footnote behind the Zadar palace — the Ferro-Grisogono-Franceschi house on Široka ulica. This archive cites the reference but has never read the page.

Update 14 September 2026. Zadar has replied and asks for their request form, saying they will attach the original email to it. Same pattern as Pazin. Not submitted — personal data.

What to ask for
A scan of page 30 of the 1859 volume, and of the title page for the citation.
Draft

Gentili Signori, vi chiedo cortesemente la riproduzione di p. 30 del «Rammentatore zaratino», annata 1859, contenente la voce «Famiglia Franceschi», insieme al frontespizio del volume.

07 Worth sending Sent true

Shelf list for the Camillo De Franceschi bibliography

Nacionalna i sveučilišna knjižnica, Zagreb
Reference
Gentileo, «Bibliografia degli scritti di Camillo De Franceschi», AMSI; Camillo De Franceschi, «Storia documentata della Contea di Pisino»
What it settles
Camillo is the second historian of this family and this archive holds almost nothing of him — no portrait, and none of his own writing read at first hand. The bibliography is the map to the rest.
What to ask for
Holdings and shelfmarks for the two titles, and whether either is digitised.

Sent 14 September 2026 from David's own account (thread 1a09e08b4e206bd2). Awaiting a reply.

Draft

Poštovani, molim podatke o primjercima i signaturama za: Gentileo, «Bibliografia degli scritti di Camillo De Franceschi» (AMSI), te Camillo De Franceschi, «Storia documentata della Contea di Pisino». Zanima me i je li išta od toga digitalizirano.

08 Worth sending

The Istrian bundle — four titles at once

Sveučilišna knjižnica u Puli (Naučna biblioteka)
Reference
Bertoša, «Pisma Carla De Franceschija Šimi Ljubiću», VHARP 13 (1968) · Jelinčić, Jadranski zbornik XI (1979–81), pp. 293–307 · Orbanić (ed.), «Visita Spirituale del 1788 in Istria» · Carlo De Franceschi, «Uspomene», Pula–Rijeka 1989
What it settles
Four references this archive cites and has not read. The Uspomene are Carlo's own memoirs — the one source that might say in his own words what the 1852 marriage entry only shows: that he was gravely ill and married in a hurry.
What to ask for
Availability and reproduction of the four items, in one request.
Draft

Poštovani, molim obavijest o dostupnosti i mogućnosti preslika za sljedeće naslove: [list]. Istražujem obitelj De Franceschi u Istri.

09 When convenient

Notarile antico, B. 2979

Archivio di Stato di Udine
Reference
ASUd, Notarile antico, busta 2979
What it settles
The Carnian end. The 1679 headmen's list puts a Zuane De Franceschi of Mione working in the county of Pazin; notarial acts are where a man of that kind leaves a second trace.
What to ask for
Whether the busta is consultable and whether a targeted search for the surname can be commissioned.
Draft

Gentili Signori, chiedo se la busta 2979 del fondo Notarile antico sia consultabile e se sia possibile una ricerca mirata sul cognome De Franceschi (area della Carnia, fine XVII secolo).

10 Send first

Senj birth register 1926 — Hedviga Blažević, and the Senj marriage register for 1948

Matični ured Senj (registry office) / Državni arhiv u Rijeci
Reference
Matična knjiga rođenih Senj 1926; matična knjiga vjenčanih Senj 1948
What it settles
Two things at once. Hedviga's date of birth stood in this archive as both 8 March 1926 and 3 August 1926 — the same digits in the wrong order. Settled on 17 September 2026 in favour of 3 August, on the certified extract of the Senj birth register translated for the Supreme Court of South Africa, with David's tree agreeing; see correction 108. The register line is still wanted — not to fix the date now, but for what an extract never carries: the house number, the parents as the priest wrote them, and the godparents. And the family remembers 1948 as the year she and Ivan Defranceski «went»; a marriage entry that year would explain the memory without contradicting their son's 1951 birth at Senj.
What to ask for
A certified copy of the birth entry for Blažević Hedviga, born 1926 at Senj, daughter of Ljubomir Blažević and Milka née Papić; and a search of the 1948 marriage register for Defranceski Ivan, born 25 June 1925 at Crikvenica, with Blažević Hedviga.
Draft

Poštovani, molim Vas ovjereni izvadak iz matične knjige rođenih za Senj, godina 1926, za Hedvigu Blažević, kćer Ljubomira Blaževića i Milke rođene Papić. Molim i pretragu matične knjige vjenčanih za Senj, godina 1948, za Ivana Defranceskog, rođenog 25. lipnja 1925. u Crikvenici, i Hedvigu Blažević. Istraživanje je obiteljsko i nekomercijalno. Unaprijed zahvaljujem.

11 Send first Sent 17 Sept 2026 · case 2026-09-17-60142

Any trace of Ivan Defranceski and Hedviga Blažević leaving Yugoslavia, 1948–1951

Arolsen Archives (International Tracing Service), Bad Arolsen
Reference
ITS Digital Collections; the family is already in the Pfullingen list of foreigners and the AOK sickness-fund cards · Use the inquiry form, not the contact form — arolsen-archives.org/en/search-explore/inquiries/submit-inquiry/. The general Kontaktanfrage box on the main site arrives at documentation@ and gets sent back; the inquiry form opens a numbered case. Required: first name, last name, e-mail, subject, salutation, consent tick, reCAPTCHA · References to quote: CM/1 3.2.1.1, 32110000 058.158 and T/D case 06030302.0.349.822.
What it settles
Lodged, and it now has a number: tracing inquiry 2026-09-17-60142, receipt confirmed by Bad Arolsen at 10:11 UTC on 17 September 2026.

How it got there. The text sent on 13 September went into the site's general contact box — it arrived at documentation@ as a Kontaktanfrage, and on the morning of the 17th they sent it back: «We would like to ask you to submit your request via the online form.» Nothing had been searched and nothing refused; it was simply the wrong door. The inquiry form at arolsen-archives.org/en/search-explore/inquiries/submit-inquiry/ is the one that opens a case, and that is where it went in the same day.

What the case actually contains is one person, not five. The form takes up to five named people; the submission carries Ivan Defranceski alone, fully documented — born 25 June 1925 at Crikvenica, Brunnenstraße 7 in Pfullingen, parents and wife named, and the four Online Archive records already found for him given by link:

· 2.1.3.1 — Iwan, 24.06.1925, birthplace written «Gricivenica» — person/70823303 · 2.2.2.1 War Time Card File — JVAN, 25.06.1925 — person/71930658 · 2.3.3.1 — IWAN, 25.06.1925 — person/77422349 · 2.3.3.1 — JWAN, 24.06.1925 — person/77422350

Hedviga Blažević is in it by name but not as a listed person — she is named as his wife and the request for 1948–1951 asks for her IRO file in the same breath. Uršula Kovačina, Anton Rudolf, and Petar's CM/1 file are not in this case at all. They are the next inquiry, and the two references to quote are already written down: CM/1 3.2.1.1, ref 32110000 058.158 and T/D 349.822, ref 06030302.0.349.822.

What was asked. The wartime card itself, and any IRO registration, screening, counselling or rejection file for Ivan or Hedviga in the French occupation zone — Württemberg-Hohenzollern, Kreis Reutlingen, Pfullingen — for 1948–1951.

Why that window and not another. The family's testimony is that Ivan and Hedviga left in 1948 meaning not to come back; their son was born at Senj on 17 December 1951, which puts them home by about March 1951. A failed exit leaves nothing in a Croatian register. If it survives anywhere, it survives at Bad Arolsen.

Expect months, not weeks. Their own acknowledgement says processing may take several months, and the form's banner warns of up to thirteen.

What to ask for
A search of the ITS holdings for 1948–1951 for DEFRANCESKI / DEFRANCESCHI, Ivan, born 25 June 1925 at Crikvenica, and BLAŽEVIĆ, Hedviga, born 1926 at Senj — in the French zone (Württemberg-Hohenzollern, Reutlingen and Pfullingen) and in any IRO registration, screening or rejection file. Separately: KOVAČINA, Uršula, born about 1890; and confirmation of which Anton Rudolf Defranceski appears on the 1947 Pfullingen list and the 1950 mayoral certificate, since the family records him as dying in 1943. Also, by reference rather than by name: copies from the CM/1 personal file 3.2.1.1, ref 32110000 058.158 (DEFRANCESKI, Petar, b. 15 June 1913, and of further persons), and from T/D case 349.822, ref 06030302.0.349.822, together with a note of what is withheld there and why. Still to be lodged as a second inquiry: Uršula Kovačina (b. about 1895, Crikvenica, died Belgrade 1975); Anton Rudolf Defranceski (b. 20 January 1890, Klenovica house 22 — on the 1947 Pfullingen list and the 1950 mayoral certificate, although the family records him dead in 1943); and Petar Vid Defranceski by reference — CM/1 3.2.1.1, ref 32110000 058.158 and T/D 349.822, ref 06030302.0.349.822.
Draft

Dear Arolsen Archives, I am researching my own family and have already used your Pfullingen list of foreigners and the Allgemeine Ortskrankenkasse card for Ivan Defranceski (Brunnenstraße 7, Pfullingen, from 21 October 1941). I should be grateful for a search of the ITS holdings for the years 1948–1951 for DEFRANCESKI / DEFRANCESCHI, Ivan, born 25 June 1925 at Crikvenica, Croatia, and for BLAŽEVIĆ, Hedviga, born 1926 at Senj — including any IRO registration, screening or rejection file in the French zone (Reutlingen / Pfullingen). His brothers Zdravko and Anton resettled to Australia from there in 1949 (Anton's card is stamped «Emigré Australie le 8.3.49»). I am also looking for KOVAČINA, Uršula, born about 1890, and for clarification of the Anton Rudolf Defranceski named on the 1947 Pfullingen list and certified by the mayor in 1950. Non-commercial family research. Two references from your own collections, in case they save you a search: the CM/1 personal file 3.2.1.1, ref 32110000 058.158, «Personal file of DEFRANCESKI, PETAR, born 15 June 1913 … and of further persons», and the tracing and documentation case T/D 349.822, ref 06030302.0.349.822 (collection 6.3.3.2, 8 documents, 1954–1984), of which parts are not displayed online. I should be grateful for copies of whatever may be released from either, and for a note of what is withheld and why.

12 Worth sending

The death of Anton Rudolf Defranceski, said by the family to be 1943 — and the surname Car

Matični ured Crikvenica / Župni ured Crikvenica
Reference
Matična knjiga umrlih Crikvenica 1943; and register entries for the surname Car, 1930s–1950s
What it settles
This archive holds two facts that cannot both be true: Anton Rudolf Defranceski, born 20 January 1890 at Klenovica house 22, is recorded as having died in 1943 «per the family», and is also on the Pfullingen list of foreigners in 1947 and certified by that town's mayor in 1950. Everything the family remembers about his widow depends on which is right.

The same request covers Car — the surname the family remembers as «Carr», which on this coast is far more likely to be the Croatian Car.

What to ask for
A search of the Crikvenica death register for 1943 for Defranceski / Defranceschi, Anton Rudolf, born 20 January 1890; and any entry linking the surname Car with Kovačina, Uršula, born about 1890, in the 1940s.
Draft

Poštovani, molim Vas pretragu matične knjige umrlih za Crikvenicu, godina 1943., za Antona Rudolfa Defranceskog, rođenog 20. siječnja 1890. u Klenovici, kućni broj 22. Molim i svaki upis koji povezuje prezime Car s Uršulom Kovačina, rođenom oko 1890., tijekom 1940-ih. Riječ je o obiteljskom istraživanju.

13 Worth sending Sent true

Hedviga Blažević, a singer at the Hotel Therapia, Crikvenica, 1940s

Muzej Grada Crikvenice / Novi list archive, Rijeka
Reference
Hotel Therapia (1895 Nadvojvoda Josip; Therapia from c.1899; latterly Falkensteiner, now Kvarner Palace) — programmes, posters, season photographs
What it settles
The family names the venue: Hedviga sang at the Hotel Therapia. That is the building that made Crikvenica a health resort — opened 1895 as the Nadvojvoda Josip, renamed Therapia when a hydropathic institute was installed. She was a Senj woman and Ivan a Crikvenica man, and this is the first explanation this archive has ever had for how the two towns met. It would also give a woman recorded here only as a wife, a mother and a date of death a profession and a workplace.
What to ask for
Any programme, poster, photograph or press notice naming a singer Hedviga Blažević at the Hotel Therapia, Crikvenica, between about 1944 and 1952 — including the hotel's own season programmes for those years.

Answered 12 September 2026 by the hotel itself. Almost nothing survives from the Therapia years — no guest books, no personnel records, no programmes — and the present owners had already searched for the same material when they took the hotel over. They do not know where it went. The hotel is eliminated; the museum and the Novi list archive are not.

Draft

Poštovani, tražim bilo kakav program, plakat, fotografiju ili novinsku vijest u kojoj se spominje pjevačica Hedviga Blažević u hotelu Therapia u Crikvenici, otprilike između 1944. i 1952. godine — uključujući i sezonske programe samoga hotela za te godine. Riječ je o obiteljskom istraživanju, nekomercijalnom. Unaprijed zahvaljujem.

14 Send first Sent true

The Governor's Office surveillance file on Valente Defranceschi, editor of «La Trappola», 1867

Državni arhiv u Zadru (State Archive in Zadar)
Reference
Namjesništvo / I. R. Luogotenenza della Dalmazia — 501 IX 2/2 1097, report of 19 September 1867; related item 493 IX 2/3 63, 1866
What it settles
The first police record of this surname anywhere in the archive, and the likeliest document to give a nineteenth-century Zadar De Franceschi a father. A political surveillance report of the 1860s normally records the subject's age, birthplace, family and employment, because that is what the officer was required to write down. The published summary — Arhivski vjesnik 35–36, Zagreb 1992, p. 131 — gives only that he was a clerk in the Zadar accounting office, fled to Italy in 1859, worked for the Italian government, returned under amnesty, and was still taking «La Perseveranza» from Milan in 1867.

Update 14 September 2026. Zadar has replied and asks for their request form, saying they will attach the original email to it. Same pattern as Pazin. Not submitted — personal data.

What to ask for
A scan or certified copy of file 501 IX 2/2 1097 of 1867 and of 493 IX 2/3 63 of 1866, together with any further items in the Namjesništvo fond indexed under the surname De Franceschi / Defranceschi for the years 1855–1875. Also, whether any run of «La Trappola» (Zadar, from 1867) survives in the archive's or the city library's holdings.

Sent 14 September 2026 from David's own account (thread 1a09e08deda5627e). Awaiting a reply.

Draft

Poštovani,

u Arhivskom vjesniku 35–36 (Zagreb, 1992., str. 131) navodi se izvještaj Namjesništva Ministarstvu unutarnjih poslova od 19. rujna 1867. (signatura 501 IX 2/2 1097) o Valenteu Defranceschiju, uredniku šaljivog lista «La Trappola», te srodni predmet 493 IX 2/3 63 iz 1866.

Molim Vas presliku ili skeniranu kopiju tih predmeta, kao i obavijest postoje li u fondu Namjesništva / I. R. Luogotenenza della Dalmazia i drugi predmeti pod prezimenom De Franceschi / Defranceschi za razdoblje 1855.–1875.

Osobito me zanimaju dob, mjesto rođenja i obiteljski podaci imenovanoga, koje policijski izvještaji toga razdoblja redovito bilježe.

Molim i obavijest čuva li se u Arhivu ili u gradskoj knjižnici ijedan sačuvani primjerak lista «La Trappola» (Zadar, od 1867.).

Riječ je o privatnom obiteljskom istraživanju. Unaprijed zahvaljujem.

S poštovanjem

15 Send first Sent 14 Sept 2026 · answered 17 Sept · GZ 2026-0.769.907

Officer personnel sheets for six men of the name, 1859–1918 — and a €45 quote the catalogue has half-answered

Österreichisches Staatsarchiv — Kriegsarchiv, Vienna
Reference
Kriegsarchiv, Personalunterlagen — Grundbuchblätter, arranged by regiment and year of birth
What it settles
This is the document that would turn nine service entries into genealogy. The Austrian and Hungarian printed service lists give a man's year of birth, his unit and his seniority — and never his birthplace. The Grundbuchblatt gives birthplace, parents, religion, marriage and next of kin. Six men of this name served in units this archive can now name, and not one of them can currently be attached to a household.

The prize is Julius: born 1879, in service from 1 July 1898, k. u. k. Kriegsmarine, still on the active list in July 1918. If he is a Fiume or Bakar man, his sheet says so, and the Kvarner households acquire their first documented officer.

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Answered on 17 September 2026, and the answer splits the six men in two. The Direktion des Kriegsarchivs replies under Geschäftszahl 2026-0.769.907, signed by the Archivdirektor at Vienna on 16 September, and heads the letter «Marinepersonensuche Julis Defranceschi (\1879) und Valentin Defranceschi (im Dienst 1854–1856)»* — the two sailors, and only the two sailors.

For the navy men they offer a paid search. €45 per started half-hour, the first half-hour free; they estimate an hour, so €45. The fee is payable whether or not anything is found — they say so in their own sentence, and it is the sentence that matters. Results are consulted in person in the Forschersaal at Nottendorfer Gasse 2–4, or sent as scans; only digital reproductions are made, for conservation, and up to €40 of reproduction costs are taken as agreed unless refused in advance. Acceptance is by e-mail to ka@oesta.gv.at, after which they send a costing with bank details. This is David's to accept or decline; nothing here commits him.

For the four land-forces men they offer nothing — and that is the useful half. Theodor, Alois, Eduard and Dr Cäsar Peschle are waved at the Kriegsarchiv's own «Forschungstipps (FAQ)», which they say lists all already-digitised holdings for self-study. Read plainly: the army material this archive wants may already be online and free, and nobody here has looked. That is now a work-list item rather than an errand.

One question the letter does not answer is the one the enquiry led with — whether Eduard, cadet 1859 and Unterleutnant 1863, is one man or two. It asks for a fee before saying.

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20 September: the catalogue answers the bill. The ÖStA's own free field search — archivinformationssystem.at/feldsuche.aspx, no account, no fee — was run for the first time and returns 99 records on the stem, 53 of them this name. Two of them decide this errand.

Do not buy a search for Valentin. He is catalogued to the item: AT-OeStA/KA Marine NMA PA Offiziere und Beamte Akten QL 944 — DEFRANCESCHI, Valentin, Administrations-Assistent, a naval Qualifikationsliste, marked «Permission required: Keine · Accessibility: Öffentlich». The right request is the one in their own FAQ — «Ich möchte digitale Reproduktionen von Archivalien bestellen» — quoting the signature. A file you can cite is a retrieval, not a research fee.

And Julius is very probably not there to find. He is absent from the catalogue, and the Kriegsarchiv's own navy page explains it: personnel records of men born after 1865 whose Heimatzuständigkeit lay outside today's Austria «verblieben in den jeweiligen Nachfolgestaaten bzw. wurden dorthin abgetreten». Julius was born in 1879 on the Kvarner. His Qualifikationsliste went to Yugoslavia at the dissolution — which means Zagreb or Belgrade, not Vienna. The €45 is payable whether or not anything is found.

So the reply to ka@oesta.gv.at writes itself, and it is cheaper than the quote: decline the Marinepersonensuche, order a reproduction of QL 944, and ask them to confirm in one line whether anything for a man born 1879 with Fiume/Bakar Heimatzuständigkeit could still be in Vienna before any fee is incurred. Quote GZ 2026-0.769.907.

What to ask for
Grundbuchblätter, or any surviving personnel file, for: · Defranceschi, Julius, b. 1879, k. u. k. Kriegsmarine, service from 1/7/1898, Linienschiffsleutnant with seniority 1/1/1909. · Defranceschi, Theodor, K. K. Landwehr, Fähnrich (nichtaktiv), 27th Regiment, seniority 1 January 1907. · Defranceschi, Alois, k. u. k. Heer, infantry cadet/Fähnrich, listed 1916–1918. · Defranceschi, Eduard, K. K. line infantry, cadet 1859, Unterleutnant 2. Classe 1863 — and whether this is one man or two. · Defranceschi, Valentin, K. K. Kriegs-Marine, Marine-Direktion Pola, 1854–1856. · Peschle, Cäsar, Dr, K. K. Landwehr medical officer, commissioned 1 August 1895, 5th and 23rd Regiments, Landsturm district Görz. The printed citations for each are on the archive's page «The name in imperial service».

Sent 14 September 2026 from David's own account (thread 1a09e0a6aed7b204). Awaiting a reply.

Now waiting on a decision, not on Vienna. €45 for the navy search on Julius and Valentin, plus up to €40 of scans, payable win or lose. If it is taken up, the reply goes to ka@oesta.gv.at quoting the Geschäftszahl 2026-0.769.907.

Revised 20 September. Ask for: a digital reproduction of AT-OeStA/KA Marine NMA PA Offiziere und Beamte Akten QL 944 (DEFRANCESCHI, Valentin); a one-line confirmation of whether any k.u.k. navy personnel file for a man born 1879 with Kvarner Heimatzuständigkeit remains in Vienna, before the research fee is incurred; and — separately, because it is a different department and not covered by the navy quote — AVA Justiz JM Präs. A 134.22 (Carl Dragutin Defranceschi, b. 29.7.1883 Zara, judge at Šibenik) and HHStA Ordenskanzlei 1918, Geschäftszahl 1732/1918 (Peter Defranceschi, Ritterkreuz mit Kriegsdekoration).

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Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,

ich ersuche um Auskunft, ob im Kriegsarchiv Grundbuchblätter oder sonstige Personalunterlagen zu folgenden Offizieren des Namens Defranceschi vorhanden sind, und gegebenenfalls um Kopien:

· Defranceschi, Julius, geb. 1879, k. u. k. Kriegsmarine, im Dienst seit 1. 7. 1898, Linienschiffsleutnant mit Rang vom 1. 1. 1909, zuletzt in der Rangliste vom 27. 7. 1918. · Defranceschi, Theodor, k. k. Landwehr, Fähnrich (nichtaktiv), 27. Regiment, Rang vom 1. Jänner 1907. · Defranceschi, Alois, k. u. k. Heer, Infanterie, Fähnrich/Kadett, in den Ranglisten 1916–1918. · Defranceschi, Eduard, k. k. Linien-Infanterie, Kadett 1859, Unterleutnant 2. Klasse 1863 — hier wäre besonders von Interesse, ob es sich um eine oder um zwei Personen handelt. · Defranceschi, Valentin, k. k. Kriegs-Marine, Marine-Direktion Pola, 1854–1856. · Peschle, Cäsar, Dr., k. k. Landwehr, Militärarzt, ernannt 1. 8. 1895, 5. und 23. Regiment, Landsturmbezirk Görz.

Von besonderem Interesse ist in allen Fällen der Geburtsort, da die gedruckten Ranglisten nur das Geburtsjahr angeben. Es handelt sich um eine private familiengeschichtliche Forschung; die gedruckten Belegstellen kann ich auf Wunsch gerne übermitteln.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

16 Worth sending

The December 1918 correspondence naming «Dr Defranceschi», South Slav representative

Haus-, Hof- und Staatsarchiv, Vienna
Reference
HHStA, Neues Politisches Archiv 397 — Staatskanzler to Dr Defranceschi, 21 December 1918; with the related items of 20 December (Polizeidirektion Wien to the State Chancellor) and 23 December (Cerović to the State Secretary for Foreign Affairs)
What it settles
The last entry on the imperial-service roll, and the only one on the other side of it. Four months after Julius Defranceschi was last printed on the Emperor's active navy list, Austria's State Chancellor is writing to a Dr Defranceschi as the South Slav representative, in the dispute over the «Bosnian Registratur» — the Austro-Hungarian archives being removed to the new Yugoslavia. The published account gives him no first name.
What to ask for
Copies of the items in NPA 397 for 20–23 December 1918 naming Dr Defranceschi, and any further correspondence in that carton under the name. What is wanted above all is his forename and his function — whether he acted for the Zagreb National Council, for the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes, or in a personal capacity; and any address or biographical note attached.
Draft

Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,

im Neuen Politischen Archiv, Karton 397, befindet sich Korrespondenz vom 20.–23. Dezember 1918 zur Frage der sogenannten «bosnischen Registratur». Darin wird ein «südslawischer Vertreter Dr. Defranceschi» genannt, an den der Staatskanzler am 21. Dezember 1918 schreibt.

Ich ersuche um Kopien dieser Stücke sowie um Auskunft, ob im selben Karton weitere Schriftstücke unter diesem Namen vorliegen.

Gesucht ist vor allem sein Vorname und seine Funktion — ob er für den Zagreber Nationalrat, für das Königreich der Serben, Kroaten und Slowenen oder in privater Eigenschaft handelte — sowie jede beigefügte Adresse oder biographische Angabe.

Es handelt sich um private familiengeschichtliche Forschung.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

17 Send first Sent **Done, 14 September 2026** — read in full from ANNO's Volltext view, no page images needed.

Read the eight Istrian and Adriatic issues where the name appears three or more times

David, with a browser — ANNO's page viewer
Reference
anno.onb.ac.at · the issues below, by their ANNO identifiers
What it settles
ANNO's search runs for this archive; its page viewer does not. The reader at data.onb.ac.at sits behind a Cloudflare check, and this archive does not answer bot checks. So the search has been done properly for the first time — all three spellings, 950 issues, 185 of them Istrian or Adriatic — and the reading cannot be.

These eight are the ones worth a human opening. They are the issues where the name appears three or more times in a single issue, which for a four- or eight-page paper means a story about the family rather than a passing mention in a list.

The first is the prize. Journal des Österreichischen Lloyd, 7 September 1848, published at Trieste and Vienna — nine occurrences in four pages. The Lloyd's journal carried shipping movements and port and quarantine notices, and 1848 is the year Ferencz Defranceschi was running the quarantine station at Martinšćica.

What to ask for
Open each and save the page as PDF or text; the archive will read them: · oll18480907 — Journal des Österreichischen Lloyd, 7 September 1848 — 9 hits · igp18950116 — Il giovine Pensiero, Pula, 16 January 1895 — 8 hits · igp18930118 — Il giovine Pensiero, 18 January 1893 — 6 hits · ist18820128 — L'Istria, 28 January 1882 — 4 hits · fia19120518 — La Fiamma, 18 May 1912 — 3 hits · edp18870903 — L'Eco di Pola, 3 September 1887 — 3 hits · igp18890912 — Il giovine Pensiero, 12 September 1889 — 3 hits · igp18960111 — Il giovine Pensiero, 11 January 1896 — 3 hits Each opens at http://data.onb.ac.at/ANNO/<id>. Note that Il giovine Pensiero clusters in January — 1893, 1894, 1895, 1896 — which looks like an annual notice rather than four separate stories.
18 Send first Sent **Done, 14 September 2026** — read in full from ANNO's Volltext view, no page images needed.

The «Defranceski» issues: two First World War casualty notices, a camp newspaper, and an official edict run

David, with a browser — ANNO again
Reference
anno.onb.ac.at · identifiers below
What it settles
Three of these have now been read and the errand is reduced. ANNO's own Volltext view — annoshow?text=<paper>|<date>|x — returns a whole issue's OCR as plain text, and with the Cloudflare check cleared in a browser it needs no page images at all. The Journal des Österreichischen Lloyd of 7 September 1848 and the two casualty lists are done and published.

These carry the family's own spelling, which no search of the Austrian press had ever used before 14 September 2026. Three groups matter.

The casualty lists are new ground entirely — this archive has never looked at a First World War casualty list in any form, and here is the name in two of them a week apart in the war's first December.

The edict run is the interesting one. Wiener Zeitung on 21, 24 and 29 December 1872, and the Laibacher Zeitung on 3, 6 and 11 March 1875, is the publication rhythm of an official legal notice, not of news. Somebody of this name was the subject of court or estate process in Carniola across a decade.

And the Wagna camp's own newspaper is a different record from the intake lists the archive already holds.

What to ask for
Open each at http://data.onb.ac.at/ANNO/<id> and save the page: Casualty lists · nvv19141221 — 21 December 1914 · nvv19141230 — 30 December 1914 Wagna camp paper · lag19170204 — 4 February 1917 The edict run, Vienna · Wiener Zeitung, 21, 24 and 29 December 1872 The edict run, Laibach · Vereinigte Laibacher Zeitung, 3, 6 and 11 March 1875; and 15, 24 and 28 June 1869 Croatian Istria · nsp19140528 — Naša Sloga, 28 May 1914 (2 hits) · nsp18951031 — 31 October 1895 · nsp19010531 — 31 May 1901 What is wanted from the edicts is simply the forename and the town; from the casualty lists, the forename, rank, regiment and home parish, which those lists print in full.

And three more, for a different family. Maria née Fernasar is the mother of our own fourth generation and her surname has never been placed. It appears in exactly three issues of the Austrian press, and two of them are casualty lists that print forename, rank, regiment and home parish: · Il Giornaletto di Pola, 8 December 1914 · Nachrichten über Verwundete und Verletzte, 14 December 1914 · Verlustliste, 6 May 1916 If a Fernasar of Gračišće is in either list, her family acquires a place and a generation in one line.

19 Send first Sent **SENT 14 September 2026** to dapa@dapa.hr — Gmail thread 1a09cf3d6bc0bb96.

Whether a second copy of the Svetvinčenat marriage register survives for 1623–1762 · ANSWERED — IT DOES

Biskupijski arhiv Poreč-Pula / Državni arhiv u Pazinu
Reference
Matične knjige vjenčanih, župa Sveti Vinčenat (Savičenta / Sanvincenti)
What it settles
Answered 14 September 2026 by Jasna Vlahović of the Državni arhiv u Pazinu, and the answer is yes.

«Državni arhiv u Pazinu ima knjigu vjenčanih 1581-1589, 1622-1623, a knjige vjenčanih 1588-1674 i 1674-1762 imamo u digitalnom obliku.»

Pazin holds the marriage book of 1581–1589 and 1622–1623 physically, and those of 1588–1674 and 1674–1762 already digitised. That covers the 1628 baptism this archive found at Svetvinčenat and the year 1679, and marriage acts name fathers.

Next step, and it needs David. Copies are issued only against DAPA's request form, which must carry his name, a delivery address and billing details (naziv uplatitelja, adresu i OIB). Guidance: https://www.dapa.hr/postupak-izdavanja-preslika-koje-podatke-navesti/ — 15 days if the form is complete, 30 by law otherwise. The form has not been filled in: it is personal data and it is his to give.

What to ask for
Two questions only. First, does the diocesan or state archive hold any marriage register or duplicate for Sveti Vinčenat covering 1623–1762 — whether a parish copy, a bishop's copy, or an extract made for a visitation? Second, if it does, what is its signature, and can pages be ordered by year?

If the answer to the first is no, that is the answer this archive needs, and it will be published as such.

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Poštovani,

molim Vas obavijest čuva li se u Vašem arhivu matična knjiga vjenčanih župe Sveti Vinčenat (Savičenta) za razdoblje 1623.–1762. — bilo kao župni primjerak, biskupijski prijepis ili izvadak načinjen prilikom kanonske vizitacije.

Mikrofilm koji mi je dostupan sadrži vjenčanja za 1581.–1589. i 1622.–1623., a zatim tek od 1762. godine. Upravo u toj praznini nalaze se podaci koji su mi potrebni.

Ako takva knjiga postoji, molim Vas njezinu signaturu i obavijest je li moguće naručiti preslike po godinama. Ako ne postoji, i ta je obavijest za mene vrijedna.

Riječ je o privatnom obiteljskom istraživanju. Unaprijed zahvaljujem.

S poštovanjem

20 Send first Sent **SENT 14 September 2026** to dad@dad.hr — Gmail thread 1a09cf406b8c46ff.

Who Pietro Defranceschi of Ragusa was, and the Persich–Defranceschi marriage of about 1850

Državni arhiv u Dubrovniku
Reference
Matične knjige grada Dubrovnika; and the records of the Republic to 1808
What it settles
Ragusa was its own republic until 1808, with its own archive, and this project has never asked it a single question. It now has a reason to.

Four indexed records resolve into one household: Matteo Persich, born 1829, son of Antonio Persich and Teresa Martecchini, married Marietta (Maria) Defranceschi, daughter of Pietro Defranceschi, and their children were baptised at Dubrovnik in 1853, 1863 and 1871.

Marietta is the only Defranceschi here whose existence is certain, and she is documented entirely through her husband and her children. Her father is a name on one flattened index row and nothing else. Who he was, when he came, and whether he was one of a family or alone in the city, is completely unknown.

What to ask for
Three things, in order of usefulness: · The marriage entry of Matteo Persich and Marietta / Maria Defranceschi, probably between 1848 and 1853. A marriage entry names both sets of parents and usually the bride's age and birthplace. · Any baptism or death entry for a Pietro Defranceschi at Dubrovnik in the first half of the nineteenth century. · Whether the surname Defranceschi / De Franceschi appears at all in the city's registers or in the Republic's own records before 1808.
Draft

Poštovani,

istražujem obitelj Defranceschi / De Franceschi i u indeksima sam pronašao skupinu upisa iz Dubrovnika koji se čini da pripadaju jednoj obitelji:

· Matteo Persich, rođen 1829., sin Antonija Persicha i Terese Martecchini; · njegova supruga Marietta (Maria) Defranceschi, kći Pietra Defranceschija; · djeca krštena u Dubrovniku 1853., 1863. i 1871. (Antonio; Cattarina Teresa Vittoria Maria, 23. prosinca 1863.; Giustino Antonio Alberto Lucciano, 26. rujna 1871.).

Molim Vas pomoć oko tri pitanja:

1. Postoji li upis vjenčanja Mattea Persicha i Mariette / Marije Defranceschi, vjerojatno između 1848. i 1853.? Upis vjenčanja navodi roditelje oboje mladenaca te dob i mjesto rođenja nevjeste, što mi je najvažnije. 2. Nalazi li se u maticama grada Pietro Defranceschi — krštenje, vjenčanje ili smrt — u prvoj polovici 19. stoljeća? 3. Pojavljuje li se prezime Defranceschi / De Franceschi uopće u dubrovačkim maticama ili u spisima Republike prije 1808.?

Riječ je o privatnom obiteljskom istraživanju bez komercijalne svrhe. Rado ću platiti naknadu za preslike prema Vašem cjeniku.

Unaprijed zahvaljujem.

S poštovanjem, David Defranceski

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Put the twelve pages of defranceski.com on the public record before it is switched off

David — one sign-in at archive.org
Reference
web.archive.org/save · the URL list is on /old-site/
What it settles
This is the only errand on this list with a deadline set by somebody else's delete button. The Wayback Machine holds two captures of the old site — the root and the home page — and nothing below them: Family Trees, The People, The Places, The Map, The Name, The Coat of Arms, Publications, Resources and About are archived nowhere on the public net, because Google Sites builds its navigation in script and the crawler never followed it down. Once the site is off, no one can archive it retrospectively.
What to ask for
Sign in at archive.org, then say the word — the twelve URLs are collected and can be submitted in one pass. Save Page Now now refuses anonymous requests («You need to be logged in to use Save Page Now»), which is why this needs a person and not a script.
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The two Horsham probate files — Zdravko 1980 and Rosa 1996

Public Record Office Victoria (PROV)
Reference
VPRS 28/P10 unit 148, file 874/188 · VPRS 28/P26 unit 155, file 1113076
What it settles
These are the only documents that can name the Australian family's children. Zdravko Frank Defranceski died at Horsham on 22 December 1979 and Ruža «Rosa» on 30 January 1996; the headstone gives him as «beloved husband of Rosa» and stops there. A grant of probate file holds the will, and a will names who inherits. This archive has no generation after them.

Update 14 September 2026 — the address is now known. The Commonwealth Gazette of 16 February 1979 lists both of them at 19 Anderson Street, Horsham 3400, granted certificates of Australian citizenship on 21 July 1978. Give PROV that address with the request; it is also the last documented sighting of Zdravko alive, seventeen months before the 22 December 1979 on his headstone — which makes the 1999 in the family file and the MyHeritage tree very hard to sustain.

What to ask for
Order copies of the two files by their VPRS references. PROV supplies digital copies of probate files; both references came off Findmypast's index of the PROV collection on 14 September 2026.
23 Worth sending

The transcripts behind the new death, obituary and parish rows

Findmypast — before the trial lapses
Reference
20 obituary notices · 22 SSDI · 7 Connecticut deaths · 4 New York RC parish marriages · 2 British Forces marriages 1946
What it settles
The index rows are harvested and published. The transcripts behind them are not, and they carry the parents, spouses and addresses that index rows omit. The two British Armed Forces marriages of 1946, one at Trieste and one at Venice, are the sharpest: British service marriages in occupied Italy is a seam this archive has never touched.
What to ask for
Open each transcript while the subscription is live and read it into the archive.
24 Send first

The Ovaro marriage allegati — all twenty-six files · DONE · and now the Mione registers themselves

Antenati — read them, nobody needs to be asked
Reference
antenati.cultura.gov.it/search-registry/?localita=Ovaro · Archivio di Stato di Udine
What it settles
Finished 14 September 2026. Twenty-six volumes, 716 images, read end to end.

Mione (twelve files, 420 images): one marriage — Osvaldo × Appolonia, 1808 — plus a new generation (Matteo, through the daughter Orsola, 1809), a priest of the surname in 1785, and a godfather in 1789. Four of the twelve turned out to be covering letters, not allegati.

The other fourteen files (296 images): no De Franceschi at all — but three Istrian documents: Cittanova and Verteneglio 1806, Capodistria 1807, San Lorenzo near Pirano 1807.

Since then, the Mione registers themselves. The whole death series 1806–1815 has been read, and the marriage tables for 1813 and 1814. Finds: Anna de Franceschi dead at forty-four in 1815, her husband Paolo alive and signing in 1812, Osvaldo signing twice at Muina in 1814, and «Erman de' Franceschi» shown to be one name and not two families.

What remains open: Matrimoni 1812 and 1815 and the six Nati volumes — the acts these allegati support, which would date the 1809 Cramaro marriage and might name Orsola's mother Maddalena's family. And the Pieve di Gorto baptismal books at Luincis, which every one of these extracts was copied out of.

What to ask for
Open them and read. A fresh browser session is needed: a long sitting on Antenati grows the cookie until the server answers «400 Bad Request — size of a request header field exceeds server limit».

Next, in order: the banns for 1806, 1808, 1809, 1810 and 1813 (fifty-five images, arks an_ua667544–667550) · Matrimoni 1812 (an_ua667521), which should hold the Zanelli × Roder act · Ovaro's Matrimoni 1815, which should hold Felice Santo's marriage · and the Nati volumes, which are still not located.

25 Worth sending

The Therapia years, and anyone who might remember a singer there

Theodor de Canziani Jakšić — Villa Ružić, Rijeka
Reference
villaruzic.hr · suggested by the Hotel Kvarner Palace, 12 September 2026
What it settles
The hotel's own archive is gone and its present owners have already looked. This is the lead they offered instead: a private family collection at Rijeka whose keeper is said to have exceptional knowledge of the region and contacts among its historians, archives, museums and collectors. The question is Hedviga Blažević at the Hotel Therapia between about 1944 and 1952 — the one place the family story says she met Ivan Defranceski.
What to ask for
Ask whether the collection or his contacts hold anything on the Therapia in the post-war years — programmes, photographs, staff, the musicians who worked the season. Mention that the Kvarner Palace suggested him.
26 When convenient Sent true

Danilo Klen on the Petrapilosa fief · DONE, and generously

Knjižnica HAZU, Zagreb — Jelena Prekratić
Reference
Danilo Klen, «Urbar Petre Pilose iz 1425. godine», Starine 58 (1980), 85–124 · DiZbi 177355 · and «Iz prošlosti Kostela — Petre Pilose i njegovih sela», Buzetski zbornik 2 (1977), 29–50
What it settles
Both articles obtained on 14 September 2026. The library confirmed that «Urbar Petre Pilose iz 1425. godine», Starine 58 (1980), pp. 85–124, is fully available in their digital collection (DiZbi 177355) — and then, unasked, identified and scanned the second Klen article for which this archive had a title but no journal: «Iz prošlosti Kostela — Petre Pilose i njegovih sela», Buzetski zbornik, knj. 2 (1977), pp. 29–50.

The 1425 urbar has been read, and it closes a line rather than opening one. The fief's villages are Zrenj, Čepić, Šalež, Nugla, Grimalda, Crnica, Sočerga and Kodolje — not Šterna and not Sovinjak, which are the two places this family is actually documented in. The surname occurs in the article only as citations of Carlo and Camillo De Franceschi, the historians, caught disagreeing with one another in print.

Still to read: the Buzetski zbornik article, which is about the fief's villages specifically and may reach further south.

What to ask for
Nothing further. The request was answered in full and then some, and the thanks are owed rather than the asking.
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The Gorto parish registers — baptisms 1811–1815, and everything before 1806

Archivio storico della Curia arcivescovile di Udine · and the Pieve di Santa Maria di Gorto, Luincis di Ovaro
Reference
Pieve di Santa Maria di Gorto (Luincis, Ovaro), the mother church of the Val di Gorto — Mione, Muina, Agrons, Ovasta, Luint, Cella and Liariis all baptised there
What it settles
The civil births stop at 1810 and this archive can go no further without the church.

Mione's Napoleonic registers run 1806 to 1815 for marriages, banns and deaths. The Nati run four volumes and stop — 1806, 1808, 1809, 1810. Anyone born to these households between 1811 and 1815 is in the Gorto baptismal register or nowhere.

And 1807 is missing from every Mione series — though not from Ovaro, whose marriages run 1806 to 1815 unbroken. It is not missing from the year: the marriage index for 1806–1810 records «Prencis Valentina con Defranceschi Osualdo — di Mione — 6 Agosto 1807». A wedding whose act is not in the archive. Gorto would have the church record of the same marriage — and it is worth trying the Ovaro 1807 allegati (an_ua679993) first, which costs nothing.

Before 1806 there is no civil registration at all. Paolo the carpenter, Osvaldo fa legname, Francesco the tailor, Matteo the shoemaker and Felice Santo the weaver were all born before the French arrived. Their baptisms are at Gorto, and so is the generation above them — which is the generation that would meet the 1679 weavers' list.

The family has stood in this churchyard and photographed the stones. What has never been asked for is the register inside.

What to ask for
Whether the pre-1806 baptismal, marriage and death registers of the Pieve di Santa Maria di Gorto survive; where they are held — the parish, the diocesan archive at Udine, or the Archivio di Stato; and whether entries for De Franceschi / Defranceschi / de' Franceschi of Mione, Muina and Agrons can be copied or consulted. Specifically:

(a) baptisms 1811–1815, to close the gap the civil registers leave · (b) the marriage of Osvaldo Defranceschi and Valentina Prencis, 6 August 1807, whose Mione civil volume is lost · (c) baptisms about 1780–1795 for Paolo, Osvaldo, Francesco, Matteo and Felice Santo.

Draft

Gentile Parroco / Spettabile Archivio,

sto ricostruendo una famiglia De Franceschi originaria di Mione, Muina e Agrons, nella Pieve di Santa Maria di Gorto. I registri dello stato civile napoleonico di Mione conservati presso l'Archivio di Stato di Udine coprono i nati solo fino al 1810, e manca interamente l'anno 1807.

Vorrei cortesemente sapere se si conservano i registri parrocchiali di battesimo, matrimonio e morte della Pieve di Gorto anteriori al 1806, dove siano conservati, e se sia possibile consultarli o richiederne copia per le seguenti ricerche: — battesimi 1811–1815 per il cognome De Franceschi di Mione; — il matrimonio di Osvaldo Defranceschi e Valentina Prencis, 6 agosto 1807; — battesimi circa 1780–1795 per Paolo, Osvaldo, Francesco, Matteo e Felice Santo De Franceschi.

La ringrazio sin d'ora per la cortese attenzione.

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One Y-DNA test on a De Franceschi who is not descended from David's father

David, with a message — any male-line DeFranceschi of the Gračišće reunion families, or of the Crikvenica and Klenovica households
Reference
Y-DNA — FamilyTreeDNA Y-37 or better, or a 23andMe / MyHeritage kit read for its paternal haplogroup
What it settles
L-M27 is the single most surprising line in this archive and it currently rests on one father and one son.

David and Ivan both return L-M27 — on two different companies' chips — and it is a South Asian lineage that does not appear in the Croatian reference sample at all and shows up five times in six thousand Italians. Ivan is 99.9% European autosomally with 0.0% of anything else. The haplogroup has no autosomal corroboration whatsoever.

Father and son agreeing proves only that they are father and son. It cannot distinguish between a De Franceschi male line that has carried L-M27 since before the surname existed, and a non-paternal event anywhere in the last two hundred years — at Klenovica, at Crikvenica, at Gračišće, at Gologorica, at Mione.

One test on a second male line settles it, and nothing else will. — If another documented male-line De Franceschi is also L-M27, the lineage is the surname's and the two lines' common ancestor carried it. — If he is not, the break lies between him and David, and the registers say exactly where the two lines part.

23andMe's DNA Relatives runs to its 1,500-match cap and contains no living match of the surname. The father's side clusters instead on Croatian littoral surnames — Miškulin, Vrkljan, Katalinić, Prpić-forms, Serich. There is no shortcut through the match lists; it has to be asked for.

What to ask for
A male De Franceschi / DeFranceschi / Defranceski who descends father-to-son from one of:

(a) Antonio DeFranceschi of Gallignana (1856–1924) — the Eleven. His sons Antonio, Giuseppe, Gioacchino, Basilio, Rotilio, Pasquale, Nicefaro and Daniele went to New York, Tuscany and Brooklyn, and the 2012 Crystal Springs reunion album names their descendants. This is the best-documented second line and the one to ask first.

(b) the Crikvenica and Klenovica households — Ivan De Franceschi's line, and the Klenovica house 22 family.

(c) the Gologorica pedigree — any surviving male line off the Gologorica book.

What is needed is only the paternal haplogroup, not a whole kit. A cousin who has already tested at 23andMe or MyHeritage can read it off his own account in a minute; nobody needs to buy anything.

Draft

Hello — I'm building a documented family history of the De Franceschi line out of Istria and Carnia, and there's one question I can't answer on my own.

My father and I have both had our paternal (Y-DNA) haplogroup read, and we come back the same. The Y chromosome passes father to son unchanged, so every man who descends father-to-son from the same De Franceschi ancestor should carry the same one — and at the moment I have only my own line to go on.

If you have tested with 23andMe, MyHeritage, Ancestry or FamilyTreeDNA, would you be willing to tell me what your paternal haplogroup is? It is one short code — nothing about health, nothing about relatives, and I don't need access to your account.

Whatever it says, I'll tell you what it means for both our lines.

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Crikvenica births 1909–1926 — roll ZM-34J/362, topographic mark M-6957

Hrvatski državni arhiv, Zagreb — HR-HDA-1448
Reference
HR-HDA-1448, Zbirka dopunskih mikrofilmova matičnih knjiga i popisa obitelji; R 1909–1926, Matični ured Crikvenica; digitised
What it settles
One roll holds the baptisms of all five of Anton Rudolf and Ursula's children — Josip Petar 1911, Petar Vid 1913, Anka Nera 1915, Zdravko 1921 and Ivan Anton 1925 — and this archive has not one of them.

FamilySearch's Crikvenica films stop at Rođeni 1896, cut at the hundred-year line as it stood when they were made, so every one of those five births falls after the end of the only collection the archive can reach for free. The supplementary collection does not stop there. This is the single most overdue book in the archive: five baptisms, one reel, and the parents named on every one of them.

The archive already wanted two other books from the same collection — the twentieth-century Status animarum (ZM-34J/251, M-5976), which is a household census that would give the whole family on one page, and marriages 1909–1947 (the same ZM-34J/362). All three should go in one request.

What to ask for
A scan or reading copy of the entries for the surname Defranceschi / Defranceski / De Franceschi in Crikvenica births 1909–1926 (ZM-34J/362, M-6957), together with the Crikvenica Status animarum of the twentieth century (ZM-34J/251, M-5976) and Crikvenica marriages 1909–1947 (ZM-34J/362, M-6957); with the folio or image reference for each entry.
30 Worth sending

Death certificate — Zdravko «Frank» Defranceski, died Horsham, 22 December 1979

Births Deaths and Marriages Victoria
Reference
Victorian historical death index, 1979; the index is open to 1988
What it settles
A Victorian death entry names the parents of the deceased. Zdravko's would give Anton Rudolf Defranceschi and Ursula Kovačina in an Australian record — and that would tie the Crikvenica family and the Australian one together in a document rather than by inference. Everything joining them at present is the Arolsen file, the ship's manifest and the family's own tree.

Ruža's 1996 death is not yet in the open index (Victoria releases deaths at thirty years), so it has to wait until 2026–27.

The index alone will not do it. A search of the free index returns a name, a year and a registration number; the parents are on the certificate, which has to be bought. This is an application, not a search — and the archive could not drive the search form from either of its browsers in any case.

What to ask for
A historical death certificate for Zdravko Defranceski (also recorded as Zorafko and Zdrafko), died at Horsham, Victoria, 22 December 1979, aged 58, buried Horsham Cemetery on 27 December — giving parents' names and places of birth.
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A fresh GEDCOM export of family tree 4

David — MyHeritage, family tree 4
Reference
Family site OYYV7AGVV4FMSGNWXC6TO74JQDUMOYA, tree 4 of six — «My Family Tree (Defranceski, Lerena, Taylor, Barry, Blazevic, Booyzen)»
What it settles
This is the cheapest single thing anybody can do for this archive. The roster's family file is the export of July 2018 — 8,286 people. The live tree holds 15,643, and a structural walk of it on 15 September found 798 individuals of the surname where name queries had found 459, with 313 of them carrying source citations David typed in by hand — FamilySearch arks, film numbers, archive names. None of that is in the archive.

It cannot be crawled out. MyHeritage blocks a POST to a local receiver and the browser tool channel truncates at about a thousand characters, which is ten people per call — eighty calls for the names alone and more for the citations. A GEDCOM is one click and one file.

It is also what caught the Horsham branch missing in the first place: David looked at his own tree and asked why the archive did not have his cousin's sister.

What to ask for
Export family tree 4 as GEDCOM from MyHeritage (Family tree → Export to GEDCOM) and drop the file in the repository. Tree 4 only — the other five trees on the site are unrelated lines.
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Marriage certificate — Emerico De Franceschi and Marietta Cosulich, Cardiff, 26 July 1876

General Register Office, England & Wales
Reference
GRO marriage index, Cardiff district, Glamorganshire, Q3 1876, volume 11A, page 428 (indexed as «Emmerico Defrancrschi»)
What it settles
The first record of this name in Wales, and it married a Cosulich. The Catholic register at St Peter's, Roath gives the two fathers — Francisci de Franceschi and Josephi Francisci Cosulich — and nothing else. The civil certificate gives the rest: both ages, both residences, both occupations, and the witnesses, who at a marriage between two Adriatic families in a Welsh coal port are likely to be the other men off the ships.

Cosulich is a Lussinpiccolo and Trieste shipowning house. If Emerico is a master or a mate, his occupation on this certificate joins this marriage to the Lloyd's List work directly. £12.50 and a fortnight, ordered online from the GRO with the volume and page above — no personal data of David's is needed beyond a delivery address.

Found 16 September 2026 in the Findmypast sweep.

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Naturalisation petition — Giovanni «John» De Franceschi, Chicago, 1937

National Archives and Records Administration, United States
Reference
NARA M1285, roll 41 — Soundex Index to Naturalization Petitions, US District & Circuit Courts, Northern District of Illinois, 1840–1950
What it settles
A naturalisation petition names the comune. Every American record this archive has for the Chicago household says «Italy» and stops: the 1930 census, the burial at St Joseph's River Grove in 1951, the Soundex index itself. The petition behind the index gives the town of birth, the date and port of arrival and the ship.

Giovanni was born in 1895 and naturalised in 1937, so he arrived somewhere in between — and if the town is in the Val Degano or the Vinodol this is not a namesake at all. The same document exists for Antonio of Memphis, born 1875 in Italy and arrived 1902, and is worth ordering in the same letter.

Found 16 September 2026 in the Findmypast sweep.

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CM/1 personal file — DEFRANCESKI, Petar, born 15 June 1913 at Crikvenica, «and of further persons»

Arolsen Archives (International Tracing Service), Bad Arolsen
Reference
3.2.1.1, reference 32110000 058.158 — Registrations and Files of Displaced Persons / IRO «Care and Maintenance» / CM/1 files from Germany, A–Z / Files with names from DEBICZ
What it settles
A CM/1 file is the fullest document a displaced person generated: where they were born, where they were during the war, who was with them, where they wanted to go and why. This one is filed under Petar and says in its own title «and of further persons» — so it is the household's file, not one man's.

The archive already holds the family's own copies of ITS D-1.505 and knows the tracing case T/D 349.822. It did not have this reference. Arolsen publishes its collections online without an account and answers enquiries free.

Found 17 September 2026, counting the seventy-nine records nobody had counted.

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The rest of the Gračišće baptism book — the reel the family's copy stops one frame short of

Državni arhiv u Pazinu (DAPA) — microfilm ZM34K-216
Reference
DAPA microfilm ZM34K-216, continuing Matična knjiga rođenih, Župa Gračišće, 1746–1840, signatura 3.2, from M01070239 to M01070310
What it settles
The family already holds ZM34K-214 and ZM34K-215 and has read them. The book they most need runs off the end of 215. Its last written page, M01070226, is headed «Annus 1807»; the next frame is a printed card reading «NASTAVLJA SE» — to be continued. Everything after 1807 is on ZM34K-216.

What is on the missing reel:

· Francisca's baptism, 3 February 1819, of Gračišće house 5 — the house of Giovanni Battista Defranceschi, the farmer of the direct line's second generation. She married into Gologorica house 6 in 1840 and the census records her born a Defranceschi out of house 5. If the baptism names her parents, it joins the Gologorica line to the direct line by marriage — and if it does not, the join is withdrawn.

· Francisca Salomon's baptism, 17 March 1797, which would name her parents and test whether the «Maria vidua Salamon» who stood godmother here on 26 November 1807 is her mother. The Salomon line has no register entry of its own.

· The Gračišće births of the direct line's own generations after 1807, including Antonio the stonecutter, born 20 September 1825.

And the book gives mothers' maiden surnames as a matter of course — the Matres column is written «Maria olim Zelich», «Maria Milotich olim Tirol» — so this one reel would answer the married-in question for the whole parish, not just for this family.

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⭐ 6 October 2026 — AND THERE IS NO ONLINE ROUTE. This was tested twice, three weeks apart, by two different methods.

David asked whether Gračišće could be reached on FamilySearch instead of by letter. It cannot.

· 15 September, all 3,488 FamilySearch collections walked — 44 opened, «Austria, Catholic Church Records» and «Hungary, Civil Registration» tested by name against a control: «Gračišće, Gologorica and Pićan are filmed nowhere at all.»

· 22 September, independently, [the Record Atlas's](../Record Atlas) harvest of FamilySearch's open browse endpoint — 1,733 collections, 4.25 million volumes: 0 hits for Gračišće, Gallignana or Gracisce.

⭐ And the shape of the gap is the argument for writing. «Croatia, Church Books, 1516–1994» holds Pazin, Krbune, Tinjan, Svetvinčenat, Barban, Vodnjan, Ližnjan, Poreč, Rovinj, Labin, Buzet — Istria is well covered. The parishes it omits are Gračišće, Gologorica, Cerovlje, Pićan and Lindar: precisely the parishes on the DAPA ZM34K reels. FamilySearch never filmed this series. DAPA holds it and nobody else published it — which is why a reel this family already buys from one source is the only way to the rest of the book.

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⭐ 7 October 2026 — what a full sweep of the reel's own half adds to this request. The Pater column of the filmed portion was read across thirty-six consecutive frames, M01070190–M01070226 — 1783 to May 1808, roughly nine hundred baptisms — and there is not one Defranceschi father in it. ⚠ Corrected 9 October: that father-column nil is real, but the Patrini column of the same frames was never read, and it holds about twenty Defranceschi, almost all entered «Cives». So the family WAS at Gračišće — as townspeople, continuously from at least 1791 — and simply had no child baptised there before 1808. So the missing reel is not merely where two baptisms sit — it is where the family's ARRIVAL at Gračišće should become visible*, and that is worth saying to the archive if a reason is ever asked for.

(Precision for the letter: the last written page M01070226 is headed «Annus 1807» but its entries run on to «18 Maij» 1808.)*

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⭐⭐ 11 October 2026 — the 1862 Gologorica census confirms Francisca from the other end, and sharpens what to ask for. Swept end to end, it enters «Francisca ux. n. Defranceschi» with a birth of 3 February 1819 — the date already in this request — and adds a death of 8 February 1892, a marriage of 25 February 1840, and an Adnotatio reading «Gallignanensis». Her husband is «Defranceschi Antonius» (1814–1893), whose own Adnotatio reads «Ex Italia (Carnia)» and whose household carries the byname «Osvaldo».

So the Gračišće bride and the Carnian husband are one household, and both halves are now dated. That is worth saying in the letter: the baptism being asked for is of a woman whose marriage, death and parish of origin are all independently attested, which makes her easy for an archivist to find and hard to confuse with a namesake.

What to ask for
⚠ Do not post this one on its own. It is folded into THE LETTER, the single request to Pazin carrying all three asks — this row keeps the reasoning and the references for the ZM34K-216 part.

A copy of DAPA microfilm ZM34K-216, or of the portion of it carrying Matična knjiga rođenih, Župa Gračišće after 1807 (frames M01070239–M01070310). The family already holds ZM34K-214 and ZM34K-215 from the same series, so this is the next reel in a set the archive has already supplied once — worth saying in the letter.

⚠ 7 October — a FOURTH entry is wanted and the draft was missing it. «Joanna uxor nata Defranceschi», born 25 June 1818, came to Gologorica «Ex Parochia Gallignanæ sub N.ᵒ 4» on her marriage of 13 February 1843 — established on 30 September and re-read from the census this week. Her baptism is on the same missing reel and would name her father. She is now in the draft.

Draft

Poštovani,

obitelj već posjeduje preslike Vaših mikrofilmova ZM34K-214 i ZM34K-215 (matične knjige župa Gologorica, Gračišće i Cerovlje).

Matična knjiga rođenih župe Gračišće, 1746.–1840., signatura 3.2, na svitku ZM34K-215 završava snimkom M01070226 (godina 1807.), nakon koje slijedi list s natpisom «NASTAVLJA SE». Nastavak se nalazi na svitku ZM34K-216, snimke M01070239–M01070310.

Molim Vas presliku tog dijela — ili cijelog svitka ZM34K-216 — te obavijest o cijeni i načinu plaćanja.

Posebno su nam potrebni upisi: · 25. lipnja 1818. — Joanna, kućni broj 4; · 3. veljače 1819. — Francisca, kućni broj 5; · 17. ožujka 1797. — Francisca Salomon; · 20. rujna 1825. — Antonio Defranceschi; · 19. lipnja 1830. ili 1836. — Regina Theresia Defranceschi, kći Ivana Krstitelja Defranceschija i Franciske rođ. Salomon, kućni broj 5 (godina na popisu duša nije čitljiva, pa molim provjeru obiju godina).

Riječ je o obiteljskom, nekomercijalnom istraživanju. Unaprijed zahvaljujem.

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«Vol. IV» — the Gologorica death register after January 1880, named by its own predecessor's last page

Državni arhiv u Pazinu (DAPA)
Reference
Matična knjiga umrlih, Župa Gologorica, the volume following signatura 5.2 (deaths 1784–1880). Not on microfilms ZM34K-214 or ZM34K-215, which the family holds.
What it settles
The book that ends names the book that follows. The Gologorica death register 1784–1880 was walked end to end on 6 October — M01069226 to M01069297, cover to last written page. Its final entry is 23 January 1880, and beneath it, in Italian where the book is Latin:

> «Segue libro nuovo · Vol. IV»

So Volume IV exists, the parish said so, and it is on neither reel this family owns.

⭐ IT CLOSES THE LAST OPEN DEATH-YEAR COLLISION. Worklist 177 carried four; three are now closed — the burial register took two and a census took the third. The fourth cannot be closed by any book on these reels: «Antonius Defranceschi», born 3 February 1855, is given 1913 by a baptism-register margin and 1918 by the family tree. A death in 1913 or 1918 is in Vol. IV and nowhere else.

⭐⭐ AND IT WOULD TURN A DOZEN CENSUS DATES INTO BURIAL ENTRIES. The 1862 status animarum, swept end to end on 11 October, carries deaths in its Obitus column that this archive has from no register at all:*

died
«Clotilda n. Ortis», wife of Carlo's brother27 February 1881
«Francisca ux. n. Defranceschi», «Gallignanensis»8 February 1892
«Defranceschi Antonius», bynamed «Osvaldo»6 January 1893
«Franciscus Xaverius Defranceschi», Carlo's brother4 January 1893
«Ruža n. Salamon», who married three Defranceschi brothers17 June 1898
«Leonardus Defranceschi», the weaver1917

Every one of those is a census clerk's note, not a burial entry. Vol. IV would give the day, the age, the cause and the officiating priest for the whole group — and this archive's standing rule is that a burial entry is first-hand where a margin and a tree are not.

⚠ What is NOT wanted from it: an Aloysius Defranceschi dying 25 November 1870. That date is a marriage, not a death, and the confusion is now filed.

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⭐ 11 October 2026 — a PARTIAL substitute exists, and it narrows the ask rather than cancelling it. The 1894 status animarum carries an «EXTREMA UNCTIO» register (M01069740): last rites by year — 1907, 1908, 1909 — each entry with a house, a hamlet and a full date of birth. Extreme unction is given at the point of death, so those three years are partly covered without Vol. IV. ⚠ No Defranceschi is among its twenty-three entries, and it stops at 1909. The request stands: the deaths this errand lists run from 1881 to 1917, and all but three of those years are untouched by it.

What to ask for
⚠ Do not post this one on its own. It is folded into THE LETTER, the single request to Pazin carrying all three asks — this row keeps the reasoning and the references for the Vol. IV part.

A copy or scan of the Gologorica death register that follows the 1784–1880 volume (signatura 5.2) — its shelf reference, and whether it is filmed on a ZM34K reel the family could buy as it bought ZM34K-214 and ZM34K-215.

If a whole reel is not available, the entries wanted are the deaths of the surname Defranceschi / De Franceschi at Gologorica from January 1880 onward, and specifically a Antonius Defranceschi, born 3 February 1855, who died about 1913 or 1918.

Draft

Poštovani,

obitelj već posjeduje preslike Vaših mikrofilmova ZM34K-214 i ZM34K-215 (matične knjige župa Gologorica, Gračišće i Cerovlje).

Matična knjiga umrlih župe Gologorica 1784.–1880., signatura 5.2, završava upisom od 23. siječnja 1880., ispod kojega je zabilježeno «Segue libro nuovo · Vol. IV». Taj sljedeći svezak nije ni na jednom od navedenih svitaka.

Molim Vas obavijest o signaturi toga sveska i o tome je li snimljen na nekom svitku serije ZM34K koji bismo mogli naručiti, te o cijeni i načinu plaćanja.

Ako preslika cijeloga sveska nije moguća, molim upise umrlih za prezime Defranceschi / De Franceschi u župi Gologorica od 1880. nadalje, a posebno: · Antonio Defranceschi, rođen 3. veljače 1855., umro oko 1913. ili 1918.; · Alojz (Aloysius) Defranceschi, rođen 4. svibnja 1832., trgovac, kućni broj 87; · Leonardo Defranceschi, rođen 22. siječnja 1847., tkalac.

Riječ je o obiteljskom, nekomercijalnom istraživanju. Unaprijed zahvaljujem.

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The Gračišće status animarum for HOUSE 4 — the one of the two intermarrying houses this archive cannot see

Državni arhiv u Pazinu (DAPA) — microfilm ZM34K-217
Reference
Status animarum, Župa Gračišće — DAPA microfilm ZM34K-217, the reel from which the family already holds frame M01072071 (house 5, bought 24 June 2021). House 4's pages are on the same reel and are not held.
What it settles
Two Defranceschi brides came out of two ADJACENT Gračišće houses into Gologorica three years apart, and the 1826 Gologorica census names the house numbers in a migration column:

bornfrommarried
«Joanna uxor nata Defranceschi»25 June 1818Gallignana, house 413 Feb 1843, to Antonius Sestan
«Francisca uxor n. Defranceschi»3 Feb 1819Gallignana, house 529 Jan 1840, to Antonius Defranceschi

House 5 is the direct line and its status animarum is already read. House 4 is not held at all — so of the two houses that were marrying each other across the hill, this archive can see one.

⭐ And the 1862 Gologorica census has since confirmed Francisca from the other end. Swept end to end on 11 October: «Francisca ux. n. Defranceschi», born 3 February 1819, died 8 February 1892, married 25 February 1840, Adnotatio «Gallignanensis» — wife of «Defranceschi Antonius», whose own Adnotatio reads «Ex Italia (Carnia)» and whose household carries the byname «Osvaldo». A Defranceschi who married a Defranceschi, out of Gračišće.

What house 4 would settle: whether Joanna and Francisca were cousins — which the worklist has asked since 7 October — and whether the two houses are one family split across two doors or two families that married. ⚠ The baptisms that would name their fathers are on ZM34K-216, which is a separate request; this one asks for the household book, which gives the house entire.

What to ask for
⚠ Do not post this one on its own. It is folded into THE LETTER, the single request to Pazin carrying all three asks — this row keeps the reasoning and the references for the ZM34K-217 part.

A copy of the Gračišće status animarum pages for house 4, from microfilm ZM34K-217 — the reel from which the family already received frame M01072071 (house 5) in June 2021. Naming a daughter Joanna, born 25 June 1818, who married out to Gologorica on 13 February 1843.

Draft

Poštovani,

obitelj je 24. lipnja 2021. od Vas primila snimku M01072071 sa svitka ZM34K-217 — stranicu status animarum župe Gračišće za kućni broj 5.

Molim Vas presliku stranica istoga popisa za kućni broj 4, s istoga svitka, te obavijest o cijeni i načinu plaćanja.

Tražimo kućanstvo u kojemu je 25. lipnja 1818. rođena Joanna, koja se 13. veljače 1843. udala u župu Gologorica.

Riječ je o obiteljskom, nekomercijalnom istraživanju. Unaprijed zahvaljujem.

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THE LETTER — everything still wanted from Pazin, in one envelope

Državni arhiv u Pazinu (DAPA) — one letter, three requests
Reference
Microfilm ZM34K-216 (Gračišće births after 1807) · the Gologorica death register after signatura 5.2 · microfilm ZM34K-217 (Gračišće status animarum, house 4) · the Gologorica marriage register after February 1788
What it settles
Errands 35, 36 and 37 are three separate asks to the same office. They were drafted separately because they were found separately; they should not be posted separately. This row is the single letter that carries all three, and it is the one to send.

⭐ Why now. As of 11 October 2026 the family's two reels are read end to end — the Gologorica baptisms, its deaths, all four status animarum, Cerovlje and both Gračišće baptism books. There is nothing substantial left on them. Everything the archive now wants is off-reel, and it is all held at Pazin.

What the letter would settle, in one line each:

ZM34K-216the baptisms of Joanna (1818) and Francisca (1819), the two Defranceschi brides out of Gračišće houses 4 and 5 — and whether they were cousins
Vol. IVthe last open death-year collision (Antonio, 1913 against 1918) and eight deaths this archive has only from a census clerk's note
ZM34K-217house 4 — the one of the two intermarrying Gračišće houses this archive cannot see

⚠ It also says what is NOT wanted, which keeps an archivist from hunting a ghost: an Aloysius Defranceschi dying 25 November 1870 does not exist — that date is his wedding.

⚠ A partial substitute for part 2 has since turned up — the 1894 book carries an «Extrema unctio» register for 1907–1909 — but it covers three years of a thirty-seven-year gap and holds no Defranceschi, so the request stands.

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⭐⭐⭐ 11 October 2026 — A FOURTH REQUEST, and it may be the most valuable of them. Looking for one woman's father, this archive checked where the Gologorica marriage register is. The two reels hold exactly one, inside the composite at M01068953–M01069007: «Notatio Personarum Matrimonio junctarum a 1ᵐᵃ Julij 1770», running to February 1788. There is no Gologorica marriage register after February 1788 on either reel — a hundred and thirty years of marriages off-film, and this archive had not recorded the gap.

⚠ It is not abstract. Nearly every marriage date found this week came from a Matrimonii column in a census, never from a marriage entry — Aloysius × Joanna 1870, Franciscus × Clotilda 1859, Leonardus 1871 and 1883, Ruža's three, Beatrix 1887, Clotildis Adelaidis 1890, Rosalia × Bubić 1869. A census gives the DATE of a marriage; a marriage entry gives the PARENTS of both parties. That is what this archive keeps running out of.

⚠ 11 October, later — a partial substitute exists for requests 2 and 4 both, and it argues for the letter rather than against it. The baptism register's margins carry death crosses running to 1954 and «Extr. za ženidbu» notes dating marriage certificates. They are annotations, not entries: a death cross gives a date and no cause, age, house or officiant; a marriage extract dates the certificate, not the wedding, and names neither spouse. They are enough to show what the missing books would hold, and not enough to replace them.

What to ask for
In English, so the letter can be checked before it goes. It says: the family already holds and has read microfilms ZM34K-214 and ZM34K-215, and asks for three things. (1) The continuation of the Gračišće baptism register after May 1808, which should be on ZM34K-216, frames M01070239–M01070310, naming five entries wanted by date and house. (2) The Gologorica death register that follows signatura 5.2 — «Vol. IV», named on the last page of its predecessor — with its shelf mark, whether it is filmed in the ZM34K series, and eight named deaths from 1880 onward. (3) The status animarum pages for Gračišće house 4 from ZM34K-217, the reel that supplied frame M01072071 (house 5) in June 2021. (4) The Gologorica marriage register for the years AFTER February 1788, where the filmed one stops — its shelf mark and whether it is filmed in the ZM34K series. It closes by asking the price, the method of payment and whether a form is required, and states the research is non-commercial.

⚠ Verify DAPA's current address and request form on dapa.hr before sending — this page carries references, not addresses. ⚠ Jasna Vlahović has previously asked for a completed request form with applicant details and an OIB for billing (errand 1); expect the same here.

⚠⚠ NOT SENT. Under the standing hold — no letter goes until David lifts it.

Draft

Poštovani,

obitelj Defranceski već posjeduje preslike Vaših mikrofilmova ZM34K-214 i ZM34K-215 (matične knjige župa Gologorica, Gračišće i Cerovlje) i pomno ih je pročitala od početka do kraja. Molim Vas pomoć oko tri stavke kojih na tim svicima nema.

1 · Matična knjiga rođenih župe GRAČIŠĆE, 1746.–1840. (signatura 3.2) — nastavak nakon 1807.

Na svitku ZM34K-215 ta knjiga završava snimkom M01070226, čiji posljednji upisi nose nadnevak 18. svibnja 1808.; odmah iza nje slijedi list s natpisom «NASTAVLJA SE». Nastavak bi se trebao nalaziti na svitku ZM34K-216, otprilike snimke M01070239–M01070310.

Posebno tražimo ove upise rođenih: · 25. lipnja 1818. — Joanna, kućni broj 4 · 3. veljače 1819. — Francisca, kućni broj 5 · 17. ožujka 1797. — Francisca Salomon · 20. rujna 1825. — Antonio Defranceschi · 19. lipnja 1830. ili 1836. — Regina Theresia Defranceschi, kći Ivana Krstitelja Defranceschija i Franciske rođ. Salomon, kućni broj 5 (godina na popisu duša nije čitljiva, pa molim provjeru obiju)

2 · Matična knjiga umrlih župe GOLOGORICA nakon siječnja 1880. — «Vol. IV»

Knjiga umrlih 1784.–1880. (signatura 5.2) završava upisom od 23. siječnja 1880., a ispod njega je rukom zabilježeno «Segue libro nuovo · Vol. IV». Taj sljedeći svezak nije ni na jednom od svitaka koje posjedujemo. Molim Vas obavijest o njegovoj signaturi i o tome je li snimljen na nekom svitku serije ZM34K koji bismo mogli naručiti.

Tražimo upise umrlih za prezime Defranceschi / De Franceschi u župi Gologorica od 1880. nadalje, a posebno: · Antonio, rođen 3. veljače 1855., umro oko 1913. ili 1918. · Alojz, rođen 4. svibnja 1832., trgovac, kućni broj 87 · Leonardo, rođen 22. siječnja 1847., tkalac · Klotilda rođ. Ortis, umrla 27. veljače 1881. · Franciska rođ. Defranceschi, umrla 8. veljače 1892. · Antun, umro 6. siječnja 1893. · Franjo Ksaver, umro 4. siječnja 1893. · Ruža rođ. Salamon, umrla 17. lipnja 1898.

(Posljednjih pet nadnevaka preuzeto je iz rubrike Obitus popisa duša iz 1862., pa bi ih u knjizi umrlih trebalo biti lako pronaći.)

3 · Status animarum župe GRAČIŠĆE — kućni broj 4 (svitak ZM34K-217)

Dana 24. lipnja 2021. primili smo od Vas snimku M01072071 s toga svitka — stranicu status animarum za kućni broj 5. Molim Vas presliku stranica za kućni broj 4 s istoga svitka. Riječ je o kućanstvu u kojemu je 25. lipnja 1818. rođena Joanna, koja se 13. veljače 1843. udala u župu Gologorica.

4 · Matična knjiga vjenčanih župe GOLOGORICA nakon veljače 1788.

Na svitku ZM34K-214 nalazi se knjiga vjenčanih pod naslovom «Notatio Personarum Matrimonio junctarum a 1ma Julij 1770.», koja završava u veljači 1788. Nastavak nije ni na jednom od svitaka koje posjedujemo.

Molim Vas obavijest o signaturi te knjige (ili knjiga) i o tome je li snimljena na nekom svitku serije ZM34K. Posebno nas zanimaju vjenčanja: · 22. siječnja 1861. — Ivan Bubić i Marijana rođ. Grah · 18. lipnja 1869. — Franjo Bubić i Rozalija rođ. Grah-Mišan, koja je došla «e Cerovglie N.º 12» · 25. studenoga 1870. — Alojz Defranceschi i Ivana rođ. Udovičić · 10. listopada 1859. — Franjo Defranceschi i Klotilda rođ. Ortis

Molim Vas obavijest o cijeni i načinu plaćanja za sve navedeno, te o tome je li potrebno ispuniti kakav obrazac.

Riječ je o obiteljskom, nekomercijalnom istraživanju; građa se neće objavljivati u komercijalne svrhe.

Unaprijed zahvaljujem na trudu.

S poštovanjem, David Defranceski

Photographs only someone there can take

Each walking itinerary ends with its own list of what to photograph. This is all of them at once, plus five that are on no itinerary at all — including the two that matter most, which are 14,000 kilometres apart and which nobody has offered to visit.

The rule that governs this list is on the Corrections page: a face without a source is worse than no face. Photograph the whole stone before the detail, and write down where you were standing.

The Line, end to end

Day 1

Tolmezzo → Ovaro → Mione · Carnia, Italy · 1679 · two days

Mione and Agrons from the valley road, in one frame each, for the scale of the place a family left

Day 1

Tolmezzo → Ovaro → Mione · Carnia, Italy · 1679 · two days

Any De Franceschi name in the Ovaro churchyard

Day 2

Ovaro → Tolmezzo → Trieste → Pazin · about 300 km · one long day

The Gorizia crossing point, whatever marks it now

Day 3

Pazin → Cerovlje → Gologorica · Istria, Croatia · 1711 · a full day

The 1711 house, whole, then the lintel

Day 3

Pazin → Cerovlje → Gologorica · Istria, Croatia · 1711 · a full day

Carlo's memorial, whole, then the inscription

Day 4

Gologorica → Gračišće · 11 km · a full day

Houses 5 and 19, if they can be identified, with any number plates

Day 4

Gologorica → Gračišće · 11 km · a full day

Any dated or carved stonework in Gračišće — Antonius was a lapicida in a village of stone

Day 5

Gračišće → Klenovica · about 120 km · half a day

Klenovica house 22 and its neighbours

Day 5

Gračišće → Klenovica · about 120 km · half a day

The road down from the Istrian plateau to the Vinodol, from the top

Day 6

Crikvenica · a full day

Every Defranceschi and Kalanj stone in Crikvenica cemetery

Day 6

Crikvenica · a full day

The house, from across the street

Day 7

Crikvenica → Senj · about 40 km · a full day

All nine Senj stones

Day 7

Crikvenica → Senj · about 40 km · a full day

The IVAN DEFRANČESKI slab specifically — quoted here, never seen

Day 8

Senj → Reutlingen · about 800 km · a long day, or fly · then two days

Every residents' card for the name, front and back

Day 8

Senj → Reutlingen · about 800 km · a long day, or fly · then two days

The 1947 foreigners' list page, in full

Day 9

Reutlingen · a half day, and a decision

If you ever get to Horsham or Johannesburg: the stones. They are the last two frames this line is missing.

Where this belongs →

Walk the Carnia line

Day 2

Ovaro → Luincis · 1.5 km · a full day, and take a tripod

The Pustetto / De Franceschi stone — the existing frame cuts off the death years.

Day 2

Ovaro → Luincis · 1.5 km · a full day, and take a tripod

The Albina plaque — the surname is off the left edge.

Day 2

Ovaro → Luincis · 1.5 km · a full day, and take a tripod

DE FR[ANCESCHI] MARIA — no dates in the frame at all.

Day 2

Ovaro → Luincis · 1.5 km · a full day, and take a tripod

The Gardel stone, never photographed.

Day 2

Ovaro → Luincis · 1.5 km · a full day, and take a tripod

Close-ups of the Crosilla and Timeus family monuments — both are in-law families and both are only in the background of existing shots.

Day 2

Ovaro → Luincis · 1.5 km · a full day, and take a tripod

The organ case and any builder's inscription.

Day 2

Ovaro → Luincis · 1.5 km · a full day, and take a tripod

The 1431 rebuilding inscription, if it survives on the fabric.

Day 2

Ovaro → Luincis · 1.5 km · a full day, and take a tripod

The provincial panel at the door, straight on and legible.

Day 3

Mione · Muina · Agrons · Cella and Ovasta · under 10 km all told · a full day

Agrons entire — this archive holds not one frame of it.

Day 3

Mione · Muina · Agrons · Cella and Ovasta · under 10 km all told · a full day

The house dal Ginut at Mione, if anybody can point to it.

Day 3

Mione · Muina · Agrons · Cella and Ovasta · under 10 km all told · a full day

House-name plates (soranòns) wherever they are painted or carved — they are how a Carnian village actually identifies a family, and they are disappearing.

Day 3

Mione · Muina · Agrons · Cella and Ovasta · under 10 km all told · a full day

The Mione memorial straight on, both columns legible.

Day 3

Mione · Muina · Agrons · Cella and Ovasta · under 10 km all told · a full day

Any surviving loom, crame or weaver's tool in a village collection.

Day 5

Ovaro → Sutrio → Paluzza · about 40 km via Tolmezzo, or 30 km of hairpins over the Zoncolan · half a day

Any De Franceschi stone in the Paluzza cemetery — this archive has none.

Day 5

Ovaro → Sutrio → Paluzza · about 40 km via Tolmezzo, or 30 km of hairpins over the Zoncolan · half a day

Naunina, the hamlet of Paluzza where the 1807 and 1810 births are registered.

Where this belongs →

Walk the Gologorica line

Day 2

Pazin → Cerovlje → Gologorica · 15 km · a full day

The portal of 1711 — the inscription, close, in raking light. This archive has the tablet in a wide frame and has never read it word for word.

Day 2

Pazin → Cerovlje → Gologorica · 15 km · a full day

The blasone on the façade, straight on and filling the frame — the arms Carlo blazons in his letter: a cross crossed by two arrows, a pomegranate beneath.

Day 2

Pazin → Cerovlje → Gologorica · 15 km · a full day

The relief of Jesus on the portal, which the 2012 survey names and no photograph here shows.

Day 2

Pazin → Cerovlje → Gologorica · 15 km · a full day

The oval cartouche in raking light, morning or late afternoon.

Day 2

Pazin → Cerovlje → Gologorica · 15 km · a full day

The Glagolitic niche, with a scale in frame.

Day 2

Pazin → Cerovlje → Gologorica · 15 km · a full day

Carlo's grave: each of the three panels separately, and the serpent in close-up.

Day 2

Pazin → Cerovlje → Gologorica · 15 km · a full day

The modern Carlo memorial tablet, whole and legible.

Day 2

Pazin → Cerovlje → Gologorica · 15 km · a full day

The loggia's two arches and the stone stair from the lane.

Day 3

Gologorica → Gračišće · 11 km · a full day

Maria Volhardt's obelisk, the whole inscription, straight on.

Day 3

Gologorica → Gračišće · 11 km · a full day

Houses 5, 19 and 24, if the numbers can be matched — and the door lintels of each.

Day 3

Gologorica → Gračišće · 11 km · a full day

The Salamon palace façade on the square.

Day 3

Gologorica → Gračišće · 11 km · a full day

The surviving bell-tower entrance of the bishop's complex.

Day 3

Gologorica → Gračišće · 11 km · a full day

The Defranceschi, Salamon and Marfan stones re-shot with the dates legible end to end.

Day 4

Gračišće → Pićan → Lindar → Beram → Sveti Petar u Šumi · 40 km · a full day

Pedena house number 10, if it still stands — Marta's address.

Day 4

Gračišće → Pićan → Lindar → Beram → Sveti Petar u Šumi · 40 km · a full day

The bishop's cathedral and any surviving episcopal arms at Pićan.

Day 4

Gračišće → Pićan → Lindar → Beram → Sveti Petar u Šumi · 40 km · a full day

Beram's Danse Macabre, for the archive's own use in explaining this world.

Where this belongs →

The Kvarner walk

Day 1

Crikvenica · a full day on foot

Every Defranceschi and Kalanj stone in Crikvenica cemetery, whole stone first, then the inscription

Day 1

Crikvenica · a full day on foot

The house, from across the street, with its neighbours in frame

Day 1

Crikvenica · a full day on foot

The parish church exterior and any dated stonework — Josip was a stonecutter in a town being built

Day 2

Klenovica → Klenovica → Ledenice · about 40 km

Klenovica house 22 and the houses either side, with any number plates legible

Day 2

Klenovica → Klenovica → Ledenice · about 40 km

The Ledenice churchyard, every legible 19th-century stone

Day 2

Klenovica → Klenovica → Ledenice · about 40 km

Klenovica from the road — a landscape frame, for the scale of it

Day 3

Bribir → Grižane → Hreljin · about 35 km

Bribir castle and any inscription or arms on it

Day 3

Bribir → Grižane → Hreljin · about 35 km

Grižane and Hreljin churchyards — the name, or its absence

Day 4

Senj · a full day

All nine Senj stones, whole then close

Day 4

Senj · a full day

The IVAN DEFRANČESKI slab specifically — this archive quotes it and has never seen it

Day 4

Senj · a full day

Any Defranceschi name on a Senj shipping or harbour plaque

Where this belongs →

The Venice and Dalmatia walk

Day 1

Venice · a full day

Any cittadini originari entry for the name, photographed with its shelfmark

Day 1

Venice · a full day

The Correr Martyrdom, and its label

Day 2

Zadar · a full day

The palace, whole façade and any coat of arms

Day 2

Zadar · a full day

Rammentatore p. 30 and the title page

Day 2

Zadar · a full day

Any Franceschi arms in the Zadar archive's heraldic material

Day 3

Split · a full day

The choir and any floor slabs or vault plaques in the cathedral

Day 3

Split · a full day

Any Franceschi name in the cathedral's own records

Day 4

Omiš · a full day

Whatever the town identifies as the 1584 house

Day 4

Omiš · a full day

Every Franceschi stone in the Omiš cemetery

Day 4

Omiš · a full day

Any salt-office or harbour inscription

Day 5

Imotski → Perinuša → Opačac · about 25 km

The mill sites at Perinuša, and any surviving stonework

Day 5

Imotski → Perinuša → Opačac · about 25 km

Opačac spring

Day 5

Imotski → Perinuša → Opačac · about 25 km

The fortress and the town from the Vrljika side

Where this belongs →

The German leg

Day 1

Pfullingen → Reutlingen

Every residents' card for the name, front and back

Day 1

Pfullingen → Reutlingen

The 1947 foreigners' list page in full, not cropped

Day 1

Pfullingen → Reutlingen

Any employer or housing record naming the family

Day 2

about 30 km round

Any street or house this archive can attach to the family

Day 2

about 30 km round

The town archives' own finding aids, photographed — they save a return trip

Day 3

Reutlingen · a desk day

Anything Arolsen returns, with its file reference visible

Where this belongs →

Not on any itinerary

Horsham, Victoria

Zdravko Defranceski's stone. He died at Horsham on 22 December 1979 — twenty years before the date the family carried. This archive has the date and no photograph.

Johannesburg

Hedviga's stone. She died at Johannesburg on 30 October 2001, six years to the day after Ivan died at Senj. Thirteen of the seventeen people on earth who spell it «Defranceski» are in Gauteng, the province this city stands in.

Rovinj

The grave of «Julius, son of Carlo», born 1853, dead 13 February 1854 — very probably Carlo De Franceschi's first child, buried at a few months old.

Vodnjan

The basilica of St Blaise, and the church of San Martino and of the B. V. del Carmine. Five generations of this family were married in those three buildings and the archive has no picture of any of them.

Zadar

The Ferro-Grisogono-Franceschi palace on Široka ulica, whole façade and any arms — cited here from a footnote nobody has read.

Where this belongs →

When one of these arrives it goes onto the page it belongs to, with the photographer credited and the date taken. If it turns out to show something other than what it was labelled — which has happened here once already, and cost this archive its only likeness of a great-grandfather — that goes on Corrections.

The itineraries →

When one of these comes back, it goes on the page it belongs to and a row goes into the Search Register — including if it comes back empty, because a negative answer from a named archive is a finding and this archive keeps those too.

The Search Register → · Parish Books → · The Work List →