Joannes Baptista Defranceschi — 6 people of the name
Joannes Baptista Defranceschi, 1752–1813. Gologorica, Pazin, Istria. 6 different people of this name are kept apart here, each with their own page.
6 different people of this name
This page gathers every mention of the name. These are separate individuals — not one life — and each has their own page.
- Joannes Baptista Defranceschi — 1752 – 1813, Gologorica, Pazin, Istria
- Joannes Baptista Defranceschi — 1752 – 1813, Gologorica
- Joannes Baptista Defranceschi — 1842 – 1880, Gologorica, Pazin, Istria
- Joannes Baptista Defranceschi — 1869, Pula
- Joannes Baptista Defranceschi — 1767, Gologorica
- Joannes Baptista Defranceschi «detti Leonardi» (m. 1774) — dates unknown, Gologorica
Head of house 17 and of the titled branch — dead at sixty of consumption, a widower.
> «Admodum R.dus D.nus Martinus Sestan, PAROCHUS NOVACENSIS, de licentia mea parochi presentis · [domus] 17 · Die 23. Januarii 1813 · D.nus JOANNES BAPTA DEFRANCESCHI, VIDUUS, defuncti Josephi filius · annorum 60 · Phthisis»
(doc — DAPA ZM34K-214, M01069248, page 39 of the Gologorica death register.)
This archive held him as born about October 1752, died 23 January 1813, with the note «Dominus» and nothing else. The register agrees with the date to the day — verification, not discovery — and adds the rest: a widower, son of the late Josephus, at house 17, of phthisis, aged sixty.
And he was buried by the parish priest of Novaki, «de licentia mea parochi presentis» — by licence of Gologorica's own. Novaki is where Clotilda Ortis came from two generations later; the parishes of this corner lent each other priests constantly.
⚠ Not to be confused with «Josephus DE-PRATO», a student of twenty-five who died three rows below him in March 1813 and whose surname, broken across a line, reads as a Defranceschi at page scale. He is not one.
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⭐⭐⭐ 9 October 2026 — HIS MARRIAGE, and he went to the Kvarner for it.
> «Die 10 9bris pro domo D. Sebastiani Sablich, Nuptiis in facie Ecclesiæ contractis inter D.ⁿᵘᵐ Joannem Bap.[tistam] [De]franceschi ex GOLLOGORIZZA et D. Catharinam Sablich, tradidit D. Parochus Buccarensis Jacobus Polian, præsentibus Senatore D. Josepho Walis et D. Josepho Smich»
(doc — FamilySearch, «Croatia, Delnice Deanery Catholic Church Books, 1571–1926»: Bakar, Religious Marriage Registers 1739–1808, film 005494714, item 1, image 172 of 226, page 161. Index 1:1:6Z2F-LSSQ; image 3:1:3QSQ-G99X-RX3F.)*
He is thirty-one, styled «Dominus», and the Bakar scribe writes his village into the entry: «ex Gollogorizza». The Gologorica register has no Defranceschi marriage in those years — he married in the bride's parish, a hundred and thirty kilometres away and under a different crown.
⚠ Twenty-one years later he is buried a widower, by the parish priest of Novaki, of consumption, at sixty. Between the two entries this archive holds three of his household's burials in six years and a wife dead at twenty-six. The marriage is the beginning of that sequence and it had never been found.
⚠ The entry gives him no patronymic, so it does not independently confirm the «defuncti Josephi filius» of his death record; the identification rests on the place, the date, the wife and the style. (doc for the entry; inf that he is this man.)
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⭐⭐ 10 October — he is called his father's son in 1772, forty-one years before his burial says it.
> 20 February 1772 · «[Mat]hia filia legitima jugalium Leonardi et Catharinæ Deprato[—] baptizata est a me Marco Bancich Parocho hujus Loci; patrini fuerunt D.ⁿᵘˢ JOANNES BAPTISTA DEFRANCESCHI FILIUS D.ⁿⁱ JOSEPHI, et ROSALIA FILIA EJUSDEM D.ⁿⁱ JOSEPHI.»
(doc — DAPA ZM34K-214, M01068930, «Liber Baptizatorum II», 20 February 1772. The ink is faint; the entry was magnified before transcription.)
This row's whole claim to a father is the 1813 death entry — «D.ⁿᵘˢ JOANNES BAPTA DEFRANCESCHI, VIDUUS, defuncti Josephi filius». Here he is, aged twenty, standing godfather and described the same way while his father was alive.
⭐ And the other godparent is his sister. «Rosalia filia ejusdem D.ⁿⁱ Josephi» — a row that was a name and a place until today. Brother and sister standing together at a font in February 1772.
⚠ And the child they stood for is NOT one of ours. At page scale the parents read «Leonardi et Catharinæ Defranceschi»; at magnification the surname is «Deprato[—]». The standing Gologorica warning, and this archive walked into it again and was caught by the same rule that catches it every time.
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✔ 11 October — named his father's son a THIRD time, and distinguished from his namesake in the same sentence.
> 3 October 1786 · «Patrini fuerunt Joannes Bapta Defranceschi MARITUS THERESIÆ, et Cattarina nata JABLICH uxor Joannis Baptistæ FILIJ JOSEPHI Defranceschi, ambo ex hac Parochia.»
(doc — DAPA ZM34K-214, M01068950, «Liber Baptizatorum II».)*
| 1772 | «Joannes Baptista Defranceschi filius D.ⁿⁱ Josephi» |
| 1786 | «uxor Joannis Baptistæ filij Josephi Defranceschi» |
| 1813 | «VIDUUS, defuncti Josephi filius» |
the elder
Born 19 June 1842, baptised on the 21st, at house 5 — and found in the strip at the foot of the page that this archive had been cropping off all day. Gologorica baptisms, folio 103 (M01069116): «Joannes Baptista n. 19 huj.», of «Antonius Defranceschi» and «Francisca nata Defranceschi»; godparents «Antonius Sestan ac Joanna Ivich». (doc — DAPA ZM34K-214.)* The pedigree already had 19 June 1842. Verification, not discovery — but this row had an empty note, and the date now has a register behind it. The day was read at magnification, past the edge of the cell. He is the eldest of the six children of this marriage the register has given today: Teresia (1843), Maria (1845), Leonardus (1847–1917), Rosa (1848–1899), Antonia (1849) and Antonius (1855–1913). His godfather Antonius Sestan is the man who married Joanna née Defranceschi the following February — so the two Defranceschi households of this village stood for each other before they were joined. ⚠ He may be the «Joannes Defranceschi» who witnessed a paternity declaration on 30 December 1870. A labourer of house 26 who could not write — «ego cum signo crucis signatus» — declared before the priest that he was the father of the child being baptised, and two men witnessed it: «Joannes Defranceschi» and «Franciscus Palman». (doc for the entry — DAPA ZM34K-214, M01069150, folio 140.) The argument is age and absence. He was twenty-eight; this archive knows no other adult Joannes Defranceschi at Gologorica in 1870. (inf — the register gives no patronymic and no house, and «no other one known» is a reason to suspect, not to assert.) The section tells what the role itself means.
The same person as Joannes Baptista Defranceschi — same name, same years, same place, entered twice from the same reading. Not a wrong date, a double insert, which is the other thing a copied year can mean. Adjudicated 27 September 2026.
This archive holds 11 other pages under what Say Your Name reconciles as the same given name in another language — a Latin register, a Venetian clerk, a Croatian village, a Hungarian office. They are not merged and none of them is claimed to be this person: a shared name is not a shared identity, and the archive will not join one to the other by machine. It is here so that a reader looking for a man the records called Josephus can see where they wrote him Josip.
Gio Batta De Franceschi · Gio Batta De Franceschi (Ovaro, 1810) · Gio: Batta de Franceschi (1880–1963) · Giovanni Batta Defranceschi · Giovanni Battista Defranceschi · Joannes Baptista Defranceschi (bapt. 1787) · Joannes Baptista de Franceschi · Joannes Baptista de Franceschi (of Svetvinčenat, d. by 1737) · Joannes Baptista de Franceschi (of Svetvinčenat, fl. 1739) · Johann Baptist Defranceschi · Johannes Baptista Defranceschi
Appears on: Our line, drawn · The Defranceschi Archive · Changes · The House at Crikvenica · The Archive · The Gologorica Line · Fiume 1626 · Carlo's Letter · The Library in Zagreb · The Marriages · Method · The Plate Room · Open Questions · Register · Lives on one scale · About · The Story · Worklist
Our line, drawn
…h.5 doc agricola — farmer Giovanni Defranceschi 1750 – 1829 Gologorica → Gračišće lore wall candidate A candidate, not a proof A Joannes Baptista Defranceschi baptised at Gologorica house 31 on 13 August 1787, son of Joannes Baptista and Theresia née Grach — the same name and the same day as generation two. If it holds, the family chart's «Giovanni» is a Giovanni Battista and a Leonardus stands behind…
Changes
…four children between 1772 and 1778 and whose line runs on through twenty-one grandchildren at Rijeka. Five things agree: forename, surname, town, an age of twenty-four at his first child's baptism, and the fact that this archive had already found «Joannes Baptista Defranceschi, widower» remarrying on 9 December 1771 — the status of a man whose wife Magdalena had died. The MyHeritage tree's unsourced b. 1748, d. 1778 now has a document behind the birth year. So work-list 142 is answered, and answered no.…
The Defranceschi Archive
…Profumi»). All three read P-r-o-f-u-m-, with the tall f and the -um- tail. None of them has a B. Corrected in four files — the baptism of Antonia di Jacobo Defranceschi (1747), Faustino di Joannes Baptista Defranceschi, the households file and the searched file — and with it the name of a man who is not a Defranceschi at all, but who stands at this family's fonts across at least five years and whose son does the…
…wife of casa 36 was not Mariana. Three children and two godmother entries name CATHARINA née JABLICH The Gologorica line — the household of Joannes Baptista at casa 36 Six children were filed under «Joannes Baptista Defranceschi × Mariana», and each carried the note «Daughter/Son of Joannes Baptista (casa 36) and Mariana». The baptism register names the mother three times, and she is not Mariana.· child· baptised· mother as written·…
…register page. What is no longer in doubt is the place: the Klenovica register of 1890 records Gallignana as this family's zavičaj, its inherited commune, four generations downstream. There is now a candidate for him too, and he is not simply Giovanni: the Joannes Baptista Defranceschi who headed casa 31 at Gologorica, husband of Theresia née Grach, whose son of the same name was baptised on 13 August 1787. If that identification holds, the family chart's Giovanni is a Giovanni Battista, and behind him stands the Leonardus who gives the…
…Status Animarum of the parish of Gallignana, house 5. Name, condition, birth, marriage and death in the ruled columns; wife and four sons beneath him. And a candidate for his baptism has now been read off the Gologorica film: a Joannes Baptista Defranceschi baptised at Gologorica, house 31, on 13 August 1787, son of Joannes Baptista and Theresia née Grach — the same name and the same day. It is an inference, not a proof, and it is set out with its objections on the Gologorica line.…
…the Salamon palace is built. Huić places its masonry in the fifteenth century; the Istrian Encyclopedia dates the building to 1570. Which matters, because generation two married one The Status Animarum of Gallignana gives Joannes Baptista Defranceschi of house 5 married in 1819 to Francisca Salomon, born 17 March 1797. This archive has never had anything on her but a name. She was of a family with a palace on the square, facing the bishop's. And in the De Franceschi archive at Zagreb, folder 6, there is…
…shutters, painted ceilings. «This is such an achingly beautiful building and it pains me to see it deteriorate by the day.» It has been empty for decades. Why it is on this page at all Because on 25 November 1819 Joannes Baptista Defranceschi of house 5 married Francisca Salomon, born 17 March 1797 — and this archive has never had anything on her but the name. It cannot prove she was of this house; Salamon is not a rare name in Istria. What it can do is stop treating her as a surname. She came…
The House at Crikvenica
…woman heading her own entry, and the only one of that name in the set. The children baptised at Bakar «Mariam Dorothæam Defranceschi», baptised 6 February 1773, and «Antoniam Defranceschi», baptised 8 January 1776 — both daughters of Joannes Baptista Defranceschi and Catharina. And Nodburga now has a husband This archive has carried «the marriage of Nodburga Defranceschi at Bakar on 27 February 1794» from its own scans for months, with no groom attached. The index gives him:…
…entries of November 1772 and the head of 1773. The archival label taped to it reads FADED DOCUMENT / IZBLIJEĐENI DOKUMENT. Read enlarged; uncertain letters are bracketed above. Bakar· reconstructed from the parish indexes Joannes Baptista Defranceschi styled «Dominus» — son of Dominus Francesco Married before 1772, to Catharina Akačić, by dispensation Children baptised Bakar, 1773 and 1776 Line Not attached to any of the five…
The Gologorica Line
…BET 1782 AND 1790 deathYear Earliest known Defranceschi ancestor in this line. Very likely the same man as the Dominus Josephus Defranceschi whose wife,, @I2@ Joannes Baptista Defranceschi M Dominus ABT OCT 1752 birthYear 23 JAN 1813 deathYear Gologorica, Pazin, Istria Head of casa 36 / House 17 - the titled (Dominus) genteel Defranceschi…
…she precedes Catharina, or she follows her, or the reading that produced her needs re-examining. The remaining three children of the household are left under her until their own entries are read.,, @I4@ Joannes Baptista Defranceschi M birthYear deathYear Head of household casa 31, Gologorica, distinguished by the byname detti,, @I5@ Theresia…
…M birthYear deathYear Son of Joannes Baptista (casa 36); listed in the name index (family N.6) but,, @I12@ Joannes Baptista Defranceschi M 13 AUG 1787 birthYear deathYear Gologorica, Pazin, Istria Baptised 13 August 1787 at house 31 — «Joh: Bapt: Defranceschi in Loco». Son of Joannes Baptista…
…1826 status animarum, M01069328. This archive already holds the Gallignana status animarum for house 5 (DAPA ZM34K-217, M01072071, supplied 24 June 2021), so her own household is readable. (doc.),, @I25@ Joannes Baptista Defranceschi M 19 JUN 1842 birthYear deathYear Gologorica, Pazin, Istria Son of Antonius & Francisca (house 5). His baptism, found 5 October 2026 — «Joannes Baptista n.…
…1725 birthYear 30 AUG 1809 deathYear Gologorica, Pazin, Istria Wife of the elder/Dominus Josephus Defranceschi (@I1@); recorded as Helena,, @I51@ Joannes Baptista Defranceschi M the elder birthYear BEF 1767 deathYear Mid-1700s Gologorica Defranceschi. Recorded only indirectly: in Feb 1767 his,, @I52@…
…Defranceschi. Recorded only indirectly: in Feb 1767 his,, @I52@ Joanna Defranceschi F birthYear deathYear Widow of Joannes Baptista Defranceschi the elder (@I51@); godmother Feb 1767.,, @I53@ Joannes Petrus Defranceschi M birthYear deathYear Titled Dominus…
…the date does «Idem — 13 August — 31 — Joh: Bapt: Defranceschi ex Loco — Joh. Bapt. — Theresia nata Grach — Math. Ortiz ex Novacco, Maria vidua Math. Orlich, Pisinenses — Cives — Civ. — Maria Chrismanich.» A Joannes Baptista Defranceschi baptised at Gologorica, house 31, on 13 August 1787, son of Joannes Baptista and Theresia née Grach. The Status Animarum of Gallignana, house 5 — which this archive already holds, and which is the evidence for generation 2 of the direct line —…
…cives, then possidentes — words that assert standing. This is standing doing something: being the literate neighbour whose name on a page makes another man's word binding. Who he is, as an inference. The obvious candidate is Joannes Baptista Defranceschi, born 19 June 1842 — whose own baptism was recovered today from the strip at the foot of a page — the eldest son of Antonius and Francisca of house 5, twenty-eight years old and of exactly the age…
…branch (/gologorica-line/), reasoned out of the family's habit of reusing the font-name Leonardus. Here it is in the register's own index, written by the priest who kept the book, and used for exactly what a byname is for: telling two men called Joannes Baptista Defranceschi apart. ⭐ And it bridges the two numbering systems. The archive's casa 31 is the «detti Leonardi» household; the index calls that household N.º 12. Worklist 171 has been asking since this morning what the book's second series of house…
…mens ium 6· Vermes», 16 July 1791. This archive carried a Maria Antonia born 1791 off the family tree with no death; the register gives the death and confirms the birth — she was six months old. So the shape of it is this. Joannes Baptista Defranceschi buried a daughter of six months in July 1791, and his wife of twenty-six in May 1792. He did not remarry. He died a widower twenty-one years later, in January 1813, at sixty. The pedigree had the two dates at either end and nothing in…
…Antonius Defranceschi· Two Defranceschi women, born eight months apart, out of two adjacent houses in one parish, married into Gologorica three years apart. And house 5 at Gallignana is this archive's own direct line — Joannes Baptista Defranceschi, agricola, born 13 August 1787, married 1819 to Francisca Salomon. House 4 is next door. ⚠⚠ THE HALF OF THIS THAT IS NOT A FINDING, SAID FIRST AND PLAINLY. Francisca's origin was already in this archive, recorded on 30…
…But the generation above is reachable from the shelf without writing to anybody: the Gračišće baptism register 1746–1840 is on reel ZM34K-215, and a baptism names a father. ⚠⚠ HIS BAPTISM IS NOT IN IT. This archive has Joannes Baptista Defranceschi born «13 Augusti 1787», «of Gallignana house 5». The register for that August (M01070195, headed «Annus 1787») holds three entries between 30 July and 2 September:· 30 July· house 196·…
…not one Defranceschi father. Five occurrences in the whole 1667–1745 book before it. The eighteenth-century Defranceschi were Gologorica people with friends at Gračišće — the register says so in five separate hands. Joannes Baptista Defranceschi, born 13 August 1787 «of Gallignana house 5», is not in this book either — and the stretch that would show the family arriving is on the reel the film breaks before. HOW IT WAS READ. Fifty-eight prose openings…
…column. ⭐⭐⭐ AND THERE IS A THERESIA DEFRANCESCHI ALREADY IN THIS ARCHIVE, FROM THE OTHER PARISH. The Gologorica baptism register names her four times, always the same way: «Theresia Defranceschi nata Grach» — wife of Joannes Baptista Defranceschi of casa 31, the «detti Leonardi» house, entered «Cives». She is the mother of Franciscus Antonius (bapt. 13 April 1785) and of Joannes Baptista (bapt. 13 August 1787) — and that second son is this archive's candidate for the head of…
Fiume 1626
…child is baptised 8 February 1778, and the tree's death year is 1778. Still inf. No entry anywhere says «Josephus filius Joannis Baptistæ». Fiume, 9 December 1771 — a widower remarries, and the first wife is gone Joannes Baptista Defranceschi, widower, and Catharina de Benzoni, joined in matrimony. Volume 2 of the same film, image 293. A widower — so Magdalena had died by the end of 1771, twenty-three years after her son's baptism. He has indexed children by…
Carlo's Letter
…father, my great-great-grandfather, also a Giambattista, son of the late Leonardo, had two sons: Giampietro and Giambattista. Three generations named. And «Giambattista del fu Leonardo» is exactly the phrase the Gologorica register uses in 1769 — «Joannes Baptista Defranceschi filius Leonardi» — the entry that gives the casa-31 branch its byname «detti Leonardi». Anche i miei derivano dalla Carnia, ma si stabilirono in Istria intorno al 1700. Mine too derive from Carnia, but they settled in Istria around…
The Marriages
…day itself. Buccari — Bakar, on the Kvarner gulf hungarian-littoral ours «Cath. ejus uxor nata Jablich ex Buccari» — Catharina, his wife, born Jablich, out of Buccari. She is the wife of Joannes Baptista Defranceschi, and the two of them stand godparents together at Gologorica on 3 October 1786, both entered as Cives Gollogoricenses. This archive had no Catharina as the wife of any Joannes Baptista — only two daughters of that name — and the surname…
Method
…that as a fact about one man: Joannes Baptista de Franceschi, an incomer. Reading forward four more frames turned it into a fact about the parish. Between 1742 and 1745 the same clerk writes «ex Cargno» against seventeen different people: Joannes Baptista Defranceschi (1742, 1743, 1744), Antonij Fiorca ex Cargno standing godfather to a foundling on 9 April 1744, Antonius Valentinus Colovri ex Cargno standing godfather to Pietro Defranceschi's son on 14 February 1745 — and the child is named Valentinus after…
Open Questions
…the Gračišće house-5 head the boy baptised at Gologorica casa 31? open The Gallignana Status Animarum gives the head of house 5 as Joan. Bapt. Defranceschi, agricola, born 13 August 1787. The Gologorica baptism book, folio 6, has a Joannes Baptista Defranceschi baptised at house 31 on 13 August 1787, son of Joannes Baptista and Theresia née Grach — the casa-31 «detti Leonardi» branch. Same name, same day, two parishes eight kilometres apart. Against it: one record is a birth and the other a baptism; the Gologorica…
Register
…Maria Spisich lead XQM3-B2ZM Joannes Surname not indexed M y b. 23 Sep 1869 Magdalena Defranceschi Antonius Nasković lead 6BKK-XCHK Joannes Baptista Defranceschi Defranceschi y b. 1869 Franciscus Defranceschi Euphemia Franca Dominica Francisca Clagnan Angelus Clagnan in 6YBL-9F8G Margarita Surname not indexed…
The Story
…house 5 The farmer of house five Here the line stops being testimony and becomes record. The Status Animarum of Gallignana — the parish's book of souls, bought from the Pazin archive in 2021 — rules a household across a page: Joannes Baptista Defranceschi, agricola, born 13 August 1787, married in 1819, dead on 1 September 1846. His wife Francisca Salomon, born 17 March 1797. Four sons, and the second of them is Antonius. Joan. Bapt. Defranceschi, agricola — n. 13 Aug. 1787, m. 1819, † 1 Sept.…
Worklist
…Defranceschi once — who cannot be Josepha Catharina b. 1737, aged eight. A Defranceschi woman not yet in this archive. Marriages read: volume 2 images 286, 291, 292, 293 — March 1769 to December 1771. No Giuseppe. But 293R gives Joannes Baptista Defranceschi, widower, marrying Catharina de Benzoni on 9 December 1771. Next, and cheapest first: volume 2 images 294–304 (marriages 1772–1776) for Giuseppe's own wedding, which would name his father outright. Then volume 1 images 134–170 and volume…
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