Giovanni Battista Defranceschi — 2 people of the name
Giovanni Battista Defranceschi, 1787–1846. Gračišće (Gallignana), house 5. 2 different people of this name are kept apart here, each with their own page.
2 different people of this name
This page gathers every mention of the name. These are separate individuals — not one life — and each has their own page.
- Giovanni Battista Defranceschi — 1787 – 1846, Gračišće (Gallignana), house 5
- Giovanni Battista Defranceschi — dates unknown, Rijeka
Citizen of Fiume
| Gen | Father before | This name | Child after |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2/8 | Giovanni Defranceschi | Giovanni Battista Defranceschi1787 · 1846 · Gračišće (Gallignana), house 5 | Antonio Defranceschi |
This archive holds 11 other pages under what Say Your Name reconciles as the same given name in another language — a Latin register, a Venetian clerk, a Croatian village, a Hungarian office. They are not merged and none of them is claimed to be this person: a shared name is not a shared identity, and the archive will not join one to the other by machine. It is here so that a reader looking for a man the records called Josephus can see where they wrote him Josip.
Gio Batta De Franceschi · Gio Batta De Franceschi (Ovaro, 1810) · Gio: Batta de Franceschi (1880–1963) · Giovanni Batta Defranceschi · Joannes Baptista Defranceschi · Joannes Baptista Defranceschi (bapt. 1787) · Joannes Baptista de Franceschi · Joannes Baptista de Franceschi (of Svetvinčenat, d. by 1737) · Joannes Baptista de Franceschi (of Svetvinčenat, fl. 1739) · Johann Baptist Defranceschi · Johannes Baptista Defranceschi
Appears on: Our line, drawn · The Defranceschi Archive · Changes · Dna · Errands · The Gologorica Line · The Marriages · The Name · The People · The Plate Room · Lives on one scale · Sources · The Timeline · The Imotski Franceschi
Our line, drawn
…Josip Defranceschi 1863 – 1951 Gračišće → Crikvenica doc Antonio Defranceschi 1825 – 1894 Gračišće h.19 doc lapicida — stonecutter Giovanni Battista Defranceschi 1787 – 1846 Gračišće h.5 doc agricola — farmer Giovanni Defranceschi 1750 – 1829 Gologorica → Gračišće lore wall candidate A…
Changes
…underneath, now fixed. Four life rows had a page section slug in the place field — early-fiume, carnia-fiume, pazin-fiume — so their dossiers read «Place: early-fiume». They are Valentino Defranceschi, Domenico de Franceschi, Giovanni Battista Defranceschi and Zuane De Franceschi, and they do not all resolve the same way: the first three belong at Rijeka, but Zuane is of Mione in Carnia and only appears in the Fiume page's Carnian section. Set accordingly, with their place slugs.…
The Defranceschi Archive
…1787. If that identification holds, the family chart's Giovanni is a Giovanni Battista, and behind him stands the Leonardus who gives the casa-31 branch its byname «detti Leonardi»., giovanni-defranceschi n Giovanni Battista Defranceschi Joan. Bapt. Defranceschi born 13 August 1787 died 1 September 1846 1819 agricola — farmer Gračišće (Gallignana), house 5 Francisca…
…unidentified. 8 January 1733, folio 138 — the headman's wife «Patrini fuerunt Judex Gregorius Milcovich et Ioana Uxor Sup.ni Ioanis Bap.tae Defranceschi.» The godparents were Judge Gregorius Milcovich and Joanna, wife of Suppanus Giovanni Battista Defranceschi. Suppanus is the župan, the headman of a village. The child was Josephus, son of Marinus Cincopan and Lucia, baptised by Canon Grah. ✔ Verified on the page, 9 October 2026 — M01070088, folio 138, read in the frame-by-frame sweep. The transcription…
…the altar. 26 June 1743, folio 158 — the same couple, ten years on «Patrini fuerunt R.di D.ni Joannes Grach, et Joanna uxor Sup.ni Jo: Baptistae Defranceschi de Golagoriza.» The Reverend Joannes Grach, and Joanna, wife of Giovanni Battista Defranceschi, headman of Gologorica. Word for word the same formula as 1733, the same wife, the same husband, the same office — and this time the scribe adds where they are from. ✔ Verified on the page, 9 October 2026 — M01070109, folio 158, in the frame-by-frame…
…godmother are the same woman, married to the same man, and he held the headmanship of Gologorica across at least those ten years. What a suppanus was, and why a Belgian bishopric is the reason for it The register calls Giovanni Battista Defranceschi «suppanus» in 1733 and «Suppani … de Golagoriza» in 1743. That is the župan, the headman of the village — the man a lord governs a place through. The Zagreb librarians' account of the family archive, published in 2024, explains what he was headman under,…
…of Pićan, until defeudalisation, when the place became a municipality. Three accounts, written independently, and they interlock The Gallignana parish register, kept at the time by clergy with no interest in this family, has Giovanni Battista Defranceschi as headman of Gologorica in 1733 and 1743, and a Dominus Joannes Petrus Defranceschi in 1744. Carlo De Franceschi, writing privately to Kobler about 1873 out of family memory, has a Giambattista who built the house in 1711 and two sons, Giampietro and…
Dna
…1925–1995 Anton Rudolf Defranceski Klenovica, house 22 → Pfullingen 12.5% b. 1890 Josip Defranceschi Gračišće → Crikvenica 6.25% 1863–1951 Antonio Defranceschi Gračišće, house 19 3.1% 1825–1894 Giovanni Battista Defranceschi Gračišće, house 5 1.6% 1787–1846 Giovanni Defranceschi Gologorica → Gračišće 0.78% 1750–1829 the Mione link Carnia → Istria 0.098% c. 1679 the Fiume household Rijeka 0.049% 1626 the Omiš…
Errands
…the next frame is a printed card reading «NASTAVLJA SE» — to be continued. Everything after 1807 is on ZM34K-216. What is on the missing reel:· Francisca's baptism, 3 February 1819, of Gračišće house 5 — the house of Giovanni Battista Defranceschi, the farmer of the direct line's second generation. She married into Gologorica house 6 in 1840 and the census records her born a Defranceschi out of house 5. If the baptism names her parents, it joins the Gologorica line to the direct line by…
The Gologorica Line
…wife; in 1747 and again in 1750 the other sponsor is «Joanna uxor Judicis Joannis Salamon» or a Milotich. Grach and Salamon are both married-in surnames of this family — Salamon above all, since Francisca Salomon married Giovanni Battista Defranceschi in 1819. Seventy-two years before that marriage, a Defranceschi and a Salamon were standing at the same font. ⚠ WHAT IS NOT CLAIMED. That either godfather is an ancestor of this line — neither entry gives a father, an age…
…than anything here 30 August 1709· «Vittoria figlia q. Gio: Battà Defranceschi» 20 May 1720· «Lucia moglie di q. Gio: Batta Defranceschi» A daughter and a wife, eleven years apart, each calling the same man dead. So a Giovanni Battista Defranceschi was dead at Gologorica before August 1709 — and he is not the Gio: Battà who died in the 1740s aged seventy, who was alive…
…before August 1709 (/person/joannes-baptista-defranceschi-of-gologorica-d-by-1709/) — and he is not the Gio: Battà who died in the 1740s aged seventy, who was alive throughout. Two Giovanni Battista Defranceschi at Gologorica, a generation apart — which is this village's standing warning arriving now inside the archive's own surname instead of beside it. ⚠ And one row-level problem the sweep exposed Hellena, widow of the late…
The Marriages
…The place to look for the Peschle is Volosca and Fiume, where the register puts them. Gračišće (Gallignana), Istria istria-austrian ours Francisca Salomon, born 17 March 1797, married Giovanni Battista Defranceschi and is the mother of the third generation of our line. Her family had a palace on the square at Gračišće, facing the bishop's. Children recorded: Raymundus b. 9 October 1823, Antonius b. 20 September 1825 — who carried the line —…
The People
…Carnian weavers and traders were moving into the Venetian and Habsburg Adriatic through exactly this period, so the identification is plausible and unproven in equal measure. What is striking is the timing. Valentino was made a citizen of Fiume in 1739; Giovanni Battista Defranceschi arrived from the County of Pazin around 1740 and was made a citizen in 1746. Two men of the same surname, from the two regions this family claims, in the same port, within eighteen months. The existing research treats them as unrelated. That is an inference…
…in the same year as each other, which in a port city usually means an epidemic rather than a coincidence. FamilySearch, Croatia Church Books 1516–1994, Rijeka (Vitipolis / Fiume) entries giovanni-battista-defranceschi Giovanni Battista Defranceschi born died pazin pazin-fiume Citizen of Fiume inferred Came from the County of Pazin around 1740 and was made a citizen of Fiume in 1746. Origin County…
…territory, because that is what the question asked, and Venetian Istria — where most Gorto emigrants actually went — was left out of the answers entirely. Third, he took a son. The County of Pazin is where Gologorica and Gračišće are. It is the county Giovanni Battista Defranceschi is said to have left for Fiume around 1740, sixty-one years later, and the county in which the De Franceschi house on the Gologorica square was built in 1711, thirty-two years later. This does not prove descent. It does move the Carnia–Istria link from a…
The Timeline
…Zuane Ivan Franceschi shelters 600 Imotski refugees year Imotski taken; the Perinuša estate granted year Valentino Defranceschi, from Carnia, made a citizen of Fiume year Giovanni Battista Defranceschi arrives from the County of Pazin year First Gračišće status animarum year Joseph II dissolves the Pauline order at Crikvenica year Napoleonic decree strips the nobiliary ‘de’ in Dalmatia…
The Imotski Franceschi
…from 1960s the second leaving move Brisbane to 2026 end gen Giovanni Defranceschi 1750 – 1829 at gen Giovanni Battista Defranceschi b. 13 Aug 1787 – 1846 at ⚠ <strongHis birth of 13 August 1787 is on the Gallignana <emStatus Animarum</em of house 5, not in a baptism register.</strong The Gračišće baptism book has now been swept and his baptism is not in it —…
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