Joannes Baptista de Franceschi (of Svetvinčenat, fl. 1739)

…yet. The largest concentration of the name this archive holds outside Vodnjan, and it was hidden in plain sight. The Pazin-county stock is the one the drawing joins to Carnia with a dotted line: Kobler's Giovanni Battista «venuto da Pisino», and a Joannes Baptista de Franceschi baptising at Fiume in 1748 whose son heads the Rijeka chain. That is a candidate join on evidence short of a document, and it is drawn as one. carnia Medulin — Medolino raised 12 October 2026 Medolino is…

…For twenty years this archive read Fiume as one Defranceschi house — Valentino the Carnian's. On 20 September 2026 a frame-by-frame sweep of the baptism film turned up another, baptising in the same church in the same decade: D.nus Joannes Baptista de Franceschi and D.na Magdalena. They matter more than a second household usually would, because their son is almost certainly the Giuseppe who heads the Rijeka chain — the line that runs on through a Valentino born 1772, twenty-one children on Ursula between 1794…

…confirms Kobler and hangs the Rijeka chain off this archive's own line. Anything else kills it. And it will be found in the County of Pazin's registers, which run from 1582 and have never been opened here — not at Fiume. D.nus Joannes Baptista de Franceschi head of the household; married twice, a widower by December 1771 joannes-baptista-de-franceschi D.na Magdalena his first wife; named only in her son's baptism, dead before December 1771. Her maiden name is the open question of this…

…«ex Cargn.» / «ex Cargnia» / «ex Cargno» — Carnia, the mountain corner of Friuli — is the only origin the Svetvinčenat register ever gives anyone of this surname. For a day this archive read that as a fact about one man: Joannes Baptista de Franceschi, an incomer. Reading forward four more frames turned it into a fact about the parish. Between 1742 and 1745 the same clerk writes «ex Cargno» against seventeen different people: Joannes Baptista Defranceschi (1742, 1743, 1744), Antonij…

…inside that book and a marriage entry names the fathers. 22 September, later — images 115, 116 and 117 read (October 1737 – May 1738), and the name is on all three. Twins to Jacobo de Franceschi and Anzola on 26 December 1737, in no index; a Joannes Baptista de Franceschi dead by that autumn, known from his daughter's entry; Jacobo godfather three times and Maria godmother three times inside eight months. Four frames of about forty-five are read and every one has carried the name, so the remaining forty are a read…

…where it stood — Magdalena's maiden name, in the County of Pazin's own books at the Državni arhiv u Pazinu. An errand, not a read. --- 22 September — a name in the right decade, and nothing more. The Svetvinčenat sweep has turned up a Joannes Baptista de Franceschi alive there on 19 April 1739, and a second of that name dead before October 1737. This is not a lead yet and is not recorded as one. Fiume's Joannes Baptista fathers a child in 1748 and his origin is unknown; Svetvinčenat is sixty kilometres…

…leaving the parish — or a Fiume entry giving his birthplace. (lore, and deliberately held at that.) --- 23 September 2026 — a Carnian Giovanni Battista, in Istria, six years early. Svetvinčenat, 20 December 1742: «Patrini fuerunt Joannes Baptista de Franceschi, ex Cargn., et Maria uxor Gasparis Perlar» — the only person of the name in that whole register given an origin, because he was not of the parish. Cargna is the Venetian form of Carnia. This is the phrase this item has been circling.…

…form of Carnia. This is the phrase this item has been circling. Fiume's marriage register puts «ex Carnia» on Valentino in 1737; Fiume's Joannes Baptista fathers a child in 1748 and his origin has never been found. Here is a Joannes Baptista de Franceschi from Carnia, in Istria, in 1742. It is not evidence that they are the same man and this item does not treat it as such — the register gives no age, no wife, no destination, and this family reuses forenames freely enough that a match on one proves…