Zuane De Franceschi

…has been able to document in Carnia itself — the country the family says it came from, and where every account of its origin has until now been tradition rather than record. In 1679 a list of village headmen recorded, at Mione: «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo, Zuane d'Erman: questi tre nell'Istria, luogo imperiale» — a De Franceschi of Mione with a son, working in Istria, in the imperial place. Carlo De Franceschi, writing about 1873, said the family had come from Carnia and settled in Istria…

…in 1806 is Giovanni Micoli-Toscano, with Battà Micoli-Toscano as secretary. The Micoli Toscano family archive at Mione is already on this project's research log as the place that holds the Gorto contracts naming the Erman who travelled to Istria with Zuane De Franceschi in 1679. In 1806 they are running the commune. And eight deaths in the same five years The register of the dead for the Comune di Mione, 1806–1810, carries eight De Franceschi entries. Read with the births, they turn a…

…— peasant weaver — which is precisely the trade Carlo De Franceschi's own book says sent the men of the Ovaro parishes down the road of the Furlans into Istria as cramars. And in the wife's ancestry stands the surname ERMAN — the family named alongside Zuane De Franceschi in the 1679 list of men working in the imperial part of Istria. n Paolo De Franceschi Giovanna Prencis Dates unrecorded. The by-name of the house Francesco was born in — «in cjasa da Prences» — is hers.…

…Jelinčić's edition of Kobler's letters, Vjesnik historijskih arhiva u Rijeci i Pazinu, open access on Hrčak. What the 1679 list was a list of This archive has leaned on one line from a headmen's return of 1679 — a Zuane De Franceschi of Mione, at work in the Habsburg County of Pazin — and has been arguing from it that the family came down into Istria as weavers. Giorgio Ferigo, the historian of the Carnian population, quotes that return in full in «Le cifre, le anime», and the argument…

…It says so. …nell'elenco stilato dai merighi, compaiono soltanto i tessitori recatisi nella contea di Pisino: così da Agrons e Cella «Mathio Ruvis con doi fioli, Gio-Batta et Pietro da Ruvis: questi tre nell'Istria, luogo imperiale»; da Mione «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo, Zuane d'Erman: questi tre nell'Istria, luogo imperiale»; da Luint «Anzolo del Fabro, mogliato nell'Istria, luogo imperiale». …in the list drawn up by the headmen there appear only the weavers who had gone into the County of…

…the list drawn up by the headmen there appear only the weavers who had gone into the County of Pisino: so from Agrons and Cella, «Mathio Ruvis with two sons, Gio-Batta and Pietro da Ruvis: these three in Istria, imperial territory»; from Mione, «Zuane De Franceschi with a son of his, Zuane d'Erman: these three in Istria, imperial territory»; from Luint, «Anzolo del Fabro, married in Istria, imperial territory». The trade is stated, not inferred «soltanto i tessitori» — only the weavers.…

…read here in September, records the same man as «Pietro Fuluto (Mione, ante 1514; Liariis 1515 e Luincis 1519)» — frescoing Mione before 1514, Liariis in 1515, Luincis in 1519. The cycle in the family's own village church is the earliest of the three. A Zuane De Franceschi walking out of Mione for Istria in 1679 had grown up under those walls. Agostino De Franceschi b. 2 2 or 8 July 18 ??, d. 1 1 or 5 September 18 ?? The oldest De Franceschi stone in the ground, and the archive has now failed twice…

…is now obvious, though this archive published both halves without seeing it. The headmen's return of 1679, which Ferigo prints in full, lists the weavers gone into the County of Pazin village by village: from «Agrons e Cella» the Ruvis, and from «Mione» — «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo». Agrons is where the family held the castle in the fifteenth century. Mione is where the archives put them in the sixteenth. And in 1679 a Zuane De Franceschi of Mione is on the road to the imperial county with his son. Two villages a mile…

…Pazin village by village: from «Agrons e Cella» the Ruvis, and from «Mione» — «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo». Agrons is where the family held the castle in the fifteenth century. Mione is where the archives put them in the sixteenth. And in 1679 a Zuane De Franceschi of Mione is on the road to the imperial county with his son. Two villages a mile apart in one parish, two hundred years apart in the documents, and the same road out of both. What the family did once it was there, from the…

…a name, and «mistro», the title of a master craftsman. The Croatian text has «mistro» and the Italian «ministro», and mistro is plainly the right reading for a man in a village of weavers. Zuanne is Venetian for Giovanni. Eighteen years later, in 1679, a Zuane De Franceschi of Mione is entered on the headmen's list of weavers gone into that same county. November 1686 — the old stock dies «In novembre del 1686 muore a Montecalvo Gian Battista, che nel documento dell'archivio parrocchiale…

…list was drawn up beneath The Romanesque campanile of Santa Maria di Gorto over the graves. This is the mother church of the Val Degano, and its two parishes — Ovaro and Luincis — are the ones whose headmen made the return of 1679 that names «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo, Zuane d'Erman: questi tre nell'Istria, luogo imperiale». The men who wrote that list are buried under this tower. Photographed by the family in Carnia, 2026 — ninety-four frames from Ovaro, Mione, Muina and…

…Matteo De Franceschi of Mione, dead before February 1809, and the father of a man whose daughter was born in 1768. A man whose granddaughter was born in 1768 belongs to a generation born around 1700 to 1720 — which is within living memory of the Zuane De Franceschi who left this valley for Istria in 1679. And she is the earliest-born De Franceschi of Mione with a day and a month Orsola, 11 April 1768. Every other Mione De Franceschi in this archive is dated from the…

…in every record that mentions her. This is exactly how the twenty-six married-out daughters on this archive's open list disappear. And the name she married into is the other name in the 1679 list. That list of village headmen recorded at Mione: «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo, Zuane d'Erman: questi tre nell'Istria, luogo imperiale» — a De Franceschi, his son, and an Erman, all three working in Istria. A hundred and thirty years later the two families are still marrying each other in the same…

…and has corrected it. What survives the correction is the important part: the same tiny place holds a De Franceschi household and the Micoli Toscano, whose palace archive keeps the 1679 Gorto contracts naming the Erman who travelled to Istria with Zuane De Franceschi. Not merely the same village — the same handful of houses. What this changes about how to read these files Four years of allegati have now produced one marriage of this family and two sightings that are not marriages — a…

…Micoli-Toscano de Nave Mionensis», godfather in 1794. That is the Micoli Toscano, whose palace at Mione holds the 1679 Gorto contracts this archive has been trying to reach for months — the ones that name the Erman who travelled to Istria with Zuane De Franceschi. They were not merely in the same village as this family. They were in the same hamlet. And one man who went the other way Among the 1815 papers the parish priest swears «per scienza indubitabile» that Valentino, son of the…

…about the route: that in 1807 a Carnian commune and an Istrian one exchanged marriage paperwork as a matter of routine, in both directions, and that the officials at each end knew how to do it. The argument this archive makes about 1679 — that a Zuane De Franceschi went from this valley to Istria — has always rested on a contract and an inference. It still does. But the traffic it assumes was real, and these two files are the ordinary administrative residue of it, a hundred and thirty years later.…

…The act is signed by Giovanni Micoli-Toscano, Ufficiale dello Stato Civile, with Batta Micoli-Toscano deputising. The Micoli Toscano palace at Mione holds the 1679 Gorto contracts — the ones naming the Erman who went to Istria with Zuane De Franceschi. In 1806 that same family is registering this family's marriages, and in 1794 one of them stood godfather at Nave. They are not a lead to chase; they are the neighbours. mionedeaths1808 : A child of five, and a household nobody had…

…is unremarkable — the earlier acts are just as loose — but it is recorded here rather than quietly rounded. «Erman de' Franceschi» is how the family writes itself This matters beyond one act. The 1679 list of village headmen names «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo, Zuane d'Erman» — and this archive has spent months treating De Franceschi and Erman as two families who happened to travel to Istria together. In 1809 and again in 1812, a man signs himself «Erman de' Franceschi» — byname…

…Giorgio Ferigo's text is explicit: «nel dato dai merighi, compaiono soltanto i tessitori recatisi nella contea di Pisino» — in the headmen's return appear only the weavers who had gone into the County of Pisino. And in that list: «da Mione «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo, Zuane d'Erman: questi tre nell'Istria, luogo imperiale». This archive has never held a De Franceschi weaver. It has held tailors — Francesco, Antonio, and the cramar argument built on them — and a carpenter, farmers, a landowner,…

…paperwork. Pietro De Franceschi of Mione is therefore documentary, at one remove: a certified extract rather than the original leaf. A Micoli Toscano stood godfather The 1679 return that opens this archive — the one naming «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo» among the Mione weavers gone down to the county of Pisino — survives in the Micoli Toscano family archive at Mione. The palace is in the photographs on this page. A hundred and thirteen years later, Giovanni Micoli-Toscano…

…rows had a page section slug in the place field — early-fiume, carnia-fiume, pazin-fiume — so their dossiers read «Place: early-fiume». They are Valentino Defranceschi, Domenico de Franceschi, Giovanni Battista Defranceschi and Zuane De Franceschi, and they do not all resolve the same way: the first three belong at Rijeka, but Zuane is of Mione in Carnia and only appears in the Fiume page's Carnian section. Set accordingly, with their place slugs. Probably two different people —…

…Joannem Anto de Franceschi 1628 Gioanna Victoriam de Franceschi 1632 Mariam de Franceschi Mariam De Franceschi Zuane De Franceschi Gioanná Victoriam Franceschi The oldest household the archive holds anywhere. Six children at Rijeka under a Venetian-Latin hand — Gioannis Antonÿ, with the trema the scribe put there. This one…

…cropped out of the magnified image and was guessed at from context. The truth is better than the mistake. The family Orsola married into is Erman — and «Zuane d'Erman» is one of the three men in the 1679 list who went from Mione to Istria with Zuane De Franceschi. The two families were still marrying each other a hundred and thirty years later, and the groom's own mother was a de Franceschi already. Caught by going to the marriage register instead of stopping at the allegati — which is the rule this…

…them said it was already fixed. 327 of the 1,122 person pages are in a group of this kind — 98 groups. Ivan Defranceski, Ivan de Franceschi, Joannem Defranceschi, Joannes Defranceschi, Giovanni Defranceschi, Giovanni de Franceschi and Zuane De Franceschi are seven pages. The fix is a cross-reference, not a merge. Identity here is by name on purpose, and collapsing Ivan into Giovanni by machine is the join this archive spends its time refusing. Each page now names the others and says plainly that…

…Sikich, Bosen — and a Fernasar is worth noting on its own, because Antonio the stonecutter of house 19 married a Maria née Fernasar a hundred and fifty years later. 1679 is the year of the headmen's return from the Carnian parishes that names «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo» at work «nell'Istria, luogo imperiale» — the Habsburg County of Pazin, which is this parish. This archive has been arguing from that one line for a year, and asking where in Istria the man went. The baptism register of the county's largest…

…in the Yugoslav victims' census at Belgrade. Whether he descends from the Gologorica household this archive holds is unproved and is not claimed. carnia-fiume The Carnia line inferred mione Zuane De Franceschi of Mione, 1679 Carnia → Fiume (Rijeka) No longer a guess about weavers in general. A De Franceschi of Mione is named on the 1679 headmen's list as working in the Habsburg County of Pazin — the same county the family's Istrian villages…

…the Val But of Carnia, on the road to the Plöcken pass — one of the valleys the 1679 headmen's list covers. Paluzza belongs with Mione, Ovaro, Muina and Givigliana in the Carnian group. The documented link to Istria is the 1679 list on which a Zuane De Franceschi of Mione is recorded working in the County of Pazin with his son; Paluzza is on the map because the walking itinerary crosses it, not because a person of the name is yet documented here. sovinjak Sovinjak…

…Istri. err/sveu-ili-na-knji-nica-u-puli-58ce29 n low Archivio di Stato di Udine Notarile antico, B. 2979 ASUd, Notarile antico, busta 2979 The Carnian end. The 1679 headmen's list puts a Zuane De Franceschi of Mione working in the county of Pazin; notarial acts are where a man of that kind leaves a second trace. Whether the busta is consultable and whether a targeted search for the surname can be commissioned. Gentili Signori, chiedo se…

…plain open hook; the third letter of «Textor» carries a crossing stroke and a loop. (doc.) ⭐ Why a weaver is not a small detail in this archive. The Carnian argument rests on the 1679 return of the headmen of Mione, which names «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo» among men listed as weavers — and the whole case that the Gologorica family came from Carnia has run on names, dates and a village, with the trade sitting in the Carnian half of the story and nothing on the Istrian side to answer…

…1730» — he came to Fiume from Carnia about 1730, and was made a citizen in 1739. Nine years from arrival to citizenship. Carlo, writing privately a century and a half later, said his family came over from Carnia around 1700; the 1679 headmen's list has a Zuane De Franceschi of Mione already working in the County of Pazin. Valentino is a later crossing on the same road, and the only one with a year on it. And it stood there in Kobler's own time «Esiste presso il confine occidentale, poco più…

…www.plemstvo.hr Zadar 44.11937, 15.23137, on Omiš 43.44336, 16.69292, on Anna Nanna Grubisic, antonio, pietro, Imotski 43.44711, 17.214, on Zuane De Franceschi governor Proložac 43.48479, 17.13664, on Antonio Death Trsat 45.33255, 14.45544, on Antonia travels to Trsat after Antonio's Death in Prolozac Pisak 43.39974,…

…and municipal officials Details are sparse and the line disperses. Included because it is part of the received account and because anything that later joins it must be able to find it. zuane-de-franceschi-mione Zuane De Franceschi born died mione carnia-fiume Weaver documented Named in 1679, with a son, as a weaver of Mione working in the Habsburg County of Pazin. The oldest documented tie between…

…undigitised material» and saying they must be read on paper at Pazin. One of them was already in the house. Read it. Image M01069975 is the opening for the winter of 1679–80 — the exact year of the Carnian headmen's return that names Zuane De Franceschi with a son at work in the imperial county. Two hundred images of narrative Latin, unindexed, no OCR possible, in the hand of the plebanus Jacobus Braitta. It is now the single most valuable thing anyone can do for this archive without leaving the…

…surname is not from here. a place, not a family The archive names it for context: a jurisdiction, an archive, a publishing city. Carnia and Friuli — the first line's country Mione di Ovaro Carnia doc A Zuane De Franceschi of Mione on the 1679 headmen's list of the County of Pazin, with his son. The only document that shows the journey at all. Ovaro· Muina· Givigliana· Paluzza Carnia doc The valley around Mione, and the Gorto cemetery where thirty and more…

…Francetich F y Mathiæ Francetich Mariæ Vlahovich lead XQMM-K32H Mandalina De Franceschi Franceschi F y Zuane De Franceschi Ellena in XQMQ-FXSH Margarita Franceschi Franceschi F y Ignatÿ Franceschi Matthea Franceschi cand Same name as somebody in this archive, but…

…Gaspar de Franceschi, warship owner at Omiš year Uskoks expelled from Senj year Gologorica baptism register begins year Gračišće baptism register begins year Zuane De Franceschi of Mione, weaver in the County of Pazin year De Franceschi house built on the Gologorica square year Zuane Ivan Franceschi shelters 600 Imotski refugees year Imotski taken; the Perinuša…

…of itself starts in Carnia — the high valleys north of Udine, where villages sent their men down the road of the Furlans into Istria each autumn as weavers and pedlars, and fetched them home in late spring. A headmen's list of 1679 catches exactly that: a Zuane De Franceschi of Mione at work in the imperial part of Istria, with his son. Some of them stopped coming home. Zuane De Franceschi di Mione, con suo figlio. Headmen's list, 1679 That is the whole of the documentary evidence for the…

…Neuhausen, Bad Urach, 1941–45. Walk the Carnia line Val Degano, Friuli· three days In 1679 the headmen of the Canale di Gorto listed the weavers who had gone to work in the County of Pazin. From Mione: «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo». This is the road he walked, in reverse — and it is about forty kilometres of it, in one valley, all of it still standing. This is not a list of dots. It is an order to do things in, because the order matters. The graveyard at…