Helena Defranceschi (Weber)

…is record-level: Maria Defranceschi is twenty-four rows, and twenty-three of them would have been accused of a disagreement belonging to one. Stripped and redone against name and source. 20 Sept 2026 correction Helena Defranceschi is a parish godmother, not a grandmother — an earlier reading withdrawn Fiume baptisms, images 127–150 tallied She stands godmother nine times in twenty frames between 1745 and 1747, for families with no connection to her own. Her…

…at Giuseppe's first son in 1772 is therefore weak evidence of kinship, and this archive's earlier reading of it as «what a grandmother does» is withdrawn. What the count does give is her identity: Valentino the Carnian's wife is the only Helena Defranceschi known to be living at Fiume in those years, and she is written plain in 1747 and D.na in 1772. A rival exists — a Helena Defranceschi b. 1725 of Gologorica — and the entries carry no patronymic, so the identification rests on residence alone.…

…does» is withdrawn. What the count does give is her identity: Valentino the Carnian's wife is the only Helena Defranceschi known to be living at Fiume in those years, and she is written plain in 1747 and D.na in 1772. A rival exists — a Helena Defranceschi b. 1725 of Gologorica — and the entries carry no patronymic, so the identification rests on residence alone. inf. 20 Sept 2026 nothing Twelve years of Fiume weddings read end to end, and the marriage that would settle…

…seen Ilona seen Helen seen Helenả seen Helena Defranceschi, wife of Valentino of Fiume — the FamilySearch index of the Fiume baptisms, XQMQ-HGYH and its fellows forms elisabetta Elisabetha seen Elisabet…

…of Australia Gazette. Periodic, No. P2, 16 February 1979, page 66 The list that made her an Australian. Arolsen had already written her Rose; the register at Fužine will say Ruža. Helenả elena Helena Defranceschi, wife of Valentino of Fiume the FamilySearch index of the Fiume baptisms, XQMQ-HGYH and its fellows Not a clerk at all — an indexing artefact, a stray hook on the final a. It is why a name search misses her. Vitnio…

…1787), and twice more as a godmother. This archive previously carried her as «Marianna», from a first reading of the film; the register itself gives Theresia in four separate hands-on entries.,, @I6@ Catharina Helena Defranceschi F birthYear deathYear Daughter of Joannes Baptista (casa 36) and Mariana.,, @I7@ Maria Rosalia Defranceschi…

…had her with no dates at all. ⚠ She cannot be Adelaidis, who is standing godmother in 1847, 1852 and 1868. Worklist 175 narrows accordingly.,, @I50@ Helena Defranceschi F ABT 1725 birthYear 30 AUG 1809 deathYear Gologorica, Pazin, Istria Wife of the elder/Dominus Josephus Defranceschi (@I1@); recorded as…

…Venezia Giulia ruling that the original spelling of the surname is «de Franceschi», citing the birth certificate of LEONARDO DE FRANCESCHI, born at LUINCIS 23 June 1626. The story.,, @I68@ Sylvia Helena Defranceschi F 16 DEC 1872 birthYear deathYear 1894 census: moved 10 Oct 1897 to the parish of Trieste (Tergesti).,, @I69@…

…«Petrus Defranceschi a Gollagoriza»· Maria, daughter of Michael Grach and Lucia· 13 Apr 1766· «Antonius Defranceschi ex Gollagorizia»· Joannes, son of Antonius and Maria Anna· 8 Jun 1783· «Joannes Bapta et Helena Defranceschi Gollogoricienses»· Antonius Joannes, son of Judge Franciscus Martinich and Francisca· Five of the six carry the epithet. The register itself says, over and over, that these people came from the other village. ⭐⭐ AND FOUR OF THE…

…about 1753. «Domina Helena, widow of the late Josephus Defranceschi» died 26 August 1804 aged 84 — born about 1720. Same Josephus. In 1783 she would be sixty-three and he thirty. ⚠ The entry says only «Joannes Bapta et Helena Defranceschi Gollogoricienses» — two people of the surname, of Gologorica. The identification is an inference and is labelled one; what is documented is that a Joannes Baptista and a Helena of this name stood together at a Gračišće font on 8 June 1783. ⭐…

…1772, when Giuseppe's first son is baptised, his father is a year into a second marriage. Fiume, 23 November 1772 and 12 July 1774 — the other household stands at the font Levantibus D.no Francisco Tomassich et D.na Helena Defranceschi· levantibus D.no Ignatio Defranceschi et D.na Theresia Tomasich Two of Giuseppe's four children carry a Defranceschi godparent, and both belong to Valentino's house — Helena is Valentino's wife, Ignatius Francus Mattheus…

…Cattarina Bacusich Francesco Bacusich in XQMQ-8HDY Aloysium Joannes Petre Defranceschi Defranceschi M y Valentinis Defranceschi Helena Defranceschi in XQM3-GSW2 Anastasia Surname not indexed F y Catharina Defranceschi Josephus Jelcić lead Ližnjan film QKMK-SXCQ…

…y Gaspari De Franceschi Maria lead 6B47-Q9XY Johannes Batta Weber Surname not indexed y Antonius Defranceschi Helena Defranceschi Cattarina Benussi Antonius Weber lead XQMQ-XGT1 Josepham Catharinam Defranceschi Defranceschi F y Valentini Defranceschi Elena Defranceschi…

…1774, 1776, 1778). The eldest son's entry, 23 November 1772, reads «Valentinus Franciscus Xaverius, filius legitimus DD. Josephi, et Franciscæ jugalium Defranceschi, heri natus, baptizavit C.us Lumaga, Levantibus D.no Francisco Tomassich et D.na Helena Defranceschi». Valentino the Carnian's wife was Helena, and in 1772 she would be in her mid-fifties. A Helena Defranceschi at the font for Giuseppe's first son is a grandmother. The celebrant, Canonicus Lumaga, is the same name as the canon who…

…DD. Josephi, et Franciscæ jugalium Defranceschi, heri natus, baptizavit C.us Lumaga, Levantibus D.no Francisco Tomassich et D.na Helena Defranceschi». Valentino the Carnian's wife was Helena, and in 1772 she would be in her mid-fifties. A Helena Defranceschi at the font for Giuseppe's first son is a grandmother. The celebrant, Canonicus Lumaga, is the same name as the canon who baptised Valentino's own son Aloysius Rochus in 1754. Still inf — another Helena Defranceschi at Fiume is possible. The…

…be in her mid-fifties. A Helena Defranceschi at the font for Giuseppe's first son is a grandmother. The celebrant, Canonicus Lumaga, is the same name as the canon who baptised Valentino's own son Aloysius Rochus in 1754. Still inf — another Helena Defranceschi at Fiume is possible. The 1746–1750 read (images 127–170) would settle it outright and remains the way to close this item. 20 Sept, later still — the scoping above is wrong and the volumes are now mapped properly. Each waypoint on this reel is…

…marriages of 1738. Image 203 is 1753, not the 1780s; that misreading has now been made twice and is retired. Baptisms read so far: volume 1 images 127–133, both pages, August 1745 to May 1746. No Defranceschi as father. Incidentally Helena Defranceschi stands godmother four times in those seven frames, and a Catharina Defranceschi once — who cannot be Josepha Catharina b. 1737, aged eight. A Defranceschi woman not yet in this archive. Marriages read: volume 2 images 286, 291, 292, 293 —…

…any of it. Unread: 138–170 (Oct 1746 to 1749) and the second gap at images ~104–125 (1743–44). And the four children of Giuseppe × Francesca now have arks, so whoever picks this up can go straight to them: 1772 3QS7-899F-WCFK (read — Helena Defranceschi godmother); 1774 3QS7-899F-WHG6; 1776 3QS7-899F-WC34; 1778 3QSQ-G99F-WHGT (located on the page — «Die 8 Feb. 1778. Hellenam Ludovicam filiam legitimam D.ni Josephi et…» — godparent line not yet magnified). Their godparents are the…

…says «Josephus filius Valentini». Remaining: the 1776 baptism (3QS7-899F-WC34) and the 1778 godparent line (3QSQ-G99F-WHGT), then the 1746–1749 gap or a death entry giving Giuseppe's age and father. All four godparent sets now read. 1772 Helena Defranceschi· 1774 Ignatio Defranceschi· 1776 Carolo Müller and Josepha Callinesi — no Defranceschi· 1778 Ludovico Henrich and Hellena Carina — no Defranceschi (resolved on a fifth crop; Carina also witnessed the Defranceschi–Benzoni marriage of…

…read: 10 November 1746 to 17 February 1747, no Defranceschi father. The running total of volume 1 baptisms read is now 127–134, 136–140 — 22 August 1745 to 17 February 1747. On 140R, 26 January 1747, «patrini fuerunt D.nus Cosar, et Helena Defranceschi» — her fifth appearance in fourteen frames. Valentino the Carnian's wife was Helena, and she is the only Helena Defranceschi known to be living at Fiume then, so the recurring godmother is almost certainly her. She is written plain in 1747…

…136–140 — 22 August 1745 to 17 February 1747. On 140R, 26 January 1747, «patrini fuerunt D.nus Cosar, et Helena Defranceschi» — her fifth appearance in fourteen frames. Valentino the Carnian's wife was Helena, and she is the only Helena Defranceschi known to be living at Fiume then, so the recurring godmother is almost certainly her. She is written plain in 1747 and D.na in 1772, matching the household's own rise from Valentinus to D.nus Valentinus in the 1750s. This cuts both ways and…